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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "With Cuthbertson, Singleton, Crosby, Oledski, Peteru, Mullally, Holroyd and Ormondroyd to choose from at prop, there is no reason we can’t play Merrin at 13.

Like many others I thought we needed to sign a prop, Furner and Sinfield obviously have faith in the ones we have. With the rest of the squad significantly strengthened, I’m willing to give them a chance. Oledski and Holroyd certainly have the potential to become internationals, we didn’t see much of Peteru last year, hopefully he comes good this season.'"

To list Ormanroyd as a prop is way wide of the mark he's a BR & not a SL one either.
Mullally is garbage that leaves a 34 yr old who thinks he's s 6 2 very young lads albeit with a lot of potential a work horse in Singleton & then Crosby who for various reasons has had 3yrs of missing games or not playing that good.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "To list Ormanroyd as a prop is way wide of the mark he's a BR & not a SL one either.
Mullally is garbage that leaves a 34 yr old who thinks he's s 6 2 very young lads albeit with a lot of potential a work horse in Singleton & then Crosby who for various reasons has had 3yrs of missing games or not playing that good.'"


That's a fair summary that.

I'd also add that Cuthbo is a busted flush. He was garbage last year and I can only see him playing at a similar level, or worse, for next season and the following season

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Going to be intresting this year in terms of props. With the new rules and less substitutions, bigger minutes are going to be expected from front rowers and maybe we are heading back to the more mobile rather than larger guys we have seen the last few years.

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Quote: LeedsLurch "Going to be intresting this year in terms of props. With the new rules and less substitutions, bigger minutes are going to be expected from front rowers and maybe we are heading back to the more mobile rather than larger guys we have seen the last few years.'"


Will we just end up with loads of big second row forwards?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Will we just end up with loads of big second row forwards?'"

Well thats what prop used to be anyway, lots of great props stated in second row. Kevin ward, lee crooks, andy platt, Morley, Peacock, etc etc.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Will we just end up with loads of big second row forwards?'"

I think we will get front rowers that can play for at least 40 minutes not 20-30 like recent seasons

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I think at full strength our bench will be 2 props, 1 back row and 1 hooker. This would allow 4 prop subs, 2 back row subs, 1 hooker sub with 1 still to spare.

Trent Merrin averaged 66 minutes game time in the NRL in 2016, this was lower in 2017 and 2018 but at 29 and with the lower intensity of Super League, he should be playing long minutes if not the full 80, as will Stevie Ward.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "he should be playing long minutes if not the full 80, as will Stevie Ward.'"


Ward doing 80 mins? Maybe over the course of a full season.

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With Merrin (who really should play back row IMO), Eard, Ferres, Smith, Ablett, JJB... maybe now Sutcliffe and Trout in the mix (Donaldson?)... Cuthbo and Peteru arguably more BR than props... We only have Singleton and Crosby, plus Oledszki and Holroyd as real props for me. We’ve lost Garbutt don’t forget.
The longer minutes argument won’t drastically alter our need for, and lack of, real metre-making front rowers.
We have had one lanky prop which worked (Peacock). Even he wasn’t a great impact prop but more of a warrior of attrition. Neither Singleton nor Crosby are in that league.
How we have arrived at having IMHO about 8 back rowers and two workman props is beyond me. Being mobile can’t be an asset if you’re on the back foot constantly and losing the energy battle. We have a lightweight hooker with a game made for broken play, which the pack has been unable to provide, so he’s wasted too.
Hall also used to take a big load off the pack early in sets.

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In an ideal world I want a big front rowers too, and still think one will come in. However, the position described above, Wigan won the GF last year with hardly anything great in the prop roles. I look at the Cas squad, and again, out and out props are very much on the low side.

As long as the rest of the side are playing above themselves, ala Wigan last year, it can be managed. This is where the coach comes in.

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Quote: Gotcha "In an ideal world I want a big front rowers too, and still think one will come in. However, the position described above, Wigan won the GF last year with hardly anything great in the prop roles. I look at the Cas squad, and again, out and out props are very much on the low side.

As long as the rest of the side are playing above themselves, ala Wigan last year, it can be managed. This is where the coach comes in.'"

Both Teams mentioned still get more impact from their props throw in Wakey Wire & ST'S that puts us way behind.

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Quote: Gotcha "In an ideal world I want a big front rowers too, and still think one will come in. However, the position described above, Wigan won the GF last year with hardly anything great in the prop roles. I look at the Cas squad, and again, out and out props are very much on the low side.

As long as the rest of the side are playing above themselves, ala Wigan last year, it can be managed. This is where the coach comes in.'"


I think you put too much emphasis on the coach.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "To list Ormanroyd as a prop is way wide of the mark he's a BR '"

Ormondroyd started at prop for Featherstone today, although hopefully we won’t be seeing him play for Leeds as IMO he’s our 8th choice prop.

Josh Walters narrowly missed out on getting mom in the Twitter vote collecting 31% of the vote.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Ormondroyd started at prop for Featherstone today, although hopefully we won’t be seeing him play for Leeds as IMO he’s our 8th choice prop.

Josh Walters narrowly missed out on getting mom in the Twitter vote collecting 31% of the vote.'"

Maybe Walters has found his level, but was not the Fev side pretty much a second string fringe player side.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Maybe Walters has found his level '"

Agreed, Walters is a Championship player, so is Ormondroyd.

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