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| Quote: Gotcha "He was an average player part of a great team. We play a team game. Without the true “legend” he would have been long forgotten. But he played his part in that team, putting his body on the line. We should be thankful of that. But “legend” sounds like bloody kids talk, when you throw it round like confetti, and seriously puts down the true meaning.'"
I get Gotcha's point and agree that too many are labelled legends, but JJB is surely fitting of the title. This is a guy whose career might never have got started because of serious injuries. He's overcome the physical and mental hurdles to play a big part in the most successful period for this club and any club in the Super League era. To make out he's average is had dropping! Maybe he didn't have the impact of a JP but to do what he's done, at that level for so many years makes him a legend in my eyes. Summed him up in that game at Wigan when he did his cruciate but still got up for a quick play of the ball. This guy is Leeds to his core and has put his body on the line than any other in our modern history
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| JJB average???? Jeez hope we have a lot more average players in the future then. He has been an outstanding player for the club for a long period of time. Yeah he shouldve retired by now but that doesn't deminish the great career he's had and the vital part he has been in great success.
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| Quote: Gotcha "There is a difference between been part of a golden generation, and a “legend”. Simply throwing down the term is completely ignoring and undermining what credit should be given to the true influences, and of similar in the past.
By all means use the term legendary team, but for individuals there needs to be far more influence than that. Only one was a true Legend, and another was a legend of the game.'"
All the players i have named there are legends of the Club they are some of the most decorated and successful players in the game in the super league era.
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| Quote: Jrrhino "All the players i have named there are legends of the Club they are some of the most decorated and successful players in the game in the super league era.'"
I find it amazing that a player of such consistency, loyalty and reliability is being classed as average. In the golden era he was an integral part of our squad. He will realise that he won’t be expected to do long minutes but what an influence to have in the dressing room. Let’s not dilute what he has done and if he can pass on anything that will benefit our new clan all the better.
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| If JJB is a legend what are Sinfield and McGuire?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "If JJB is a legend what are Sinfield and McGuire?'"
They are also Legend’s.
Leeds’s achievements over the last 15 years should not be underestimated. We are not restricted to one or two legends in that time frame. Remember the golden generation are the most successful side Leeds have had ever. They are also the most successful Super League side ever.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "If JJB is a legend what are Sinfield and McGuire?'"
Legends also id go as far as saying those 2 plus JP & Burrow are "Immortals" that doesn't mean Jjb is any less deserving as being honoured as a Legend.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "They are also Legend’s.
Leeds’s achievements over the last 15 years should not be underestimated. We are not restricted to one or two legends in that time frame. Remember the golden generation are the most successful side Leeds have had ever. They are also the most successful Super League side ever.'"
Whilst I agree with everyone on here about JJB to say his contribution and his status ranks alongside Sinfield's doesn't do justice to Sinfield's contribution to the success
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "If JJB is a legend what are Sinfield and McGuire?'"
JP And Sinfield are all time RL greats and are hall of famers in waiting along with Adrien Morley.
McGuire and burrow are super league greats, (Mcguire was criminally overlooked for the atonal side)
JJB club great,
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| Quote: Carlmcfarlane "I find it amazing that a player of such consistency, loyalty and reliability is being classed as average. In the golden era he was an integral part of our squad. He will realise that he won’t be expected to do long minutes but what an influence to have in the dressing room. Let’s not dilute what he has done and if he can pass on anything that will benefit our new clan all the better.'"
What it boils down too is everyones opinion of a player and how much you think they have given to your club and impacted it and imo JJB is a Leeds legend for his commitment, determination, selflessness and Success.
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| Quote: Jrrhino "What it boils down too is everyones opinion of a player and how much you think they have given to your club and impacted it and imo JJB is a Leeds legend for his commitment, determination, selflessness and Success.'"
Fair point
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| Quote: Jrrhino "What it boils down too is everyones opinion of a player and how much you think they have given to your club and impacted it and imo JJB is a Leeds legend for his commitment, determination, selflessness and Success.'" INOUT
qualities for a good christian and covering 2 small half backs tackling but for a legendary 2nd rower (twice failed prop) how many clean breaks were made , how many big hits? picking best backrowers since 99 he would be behind morley, farrell, glanville, sinfield, lauititi, ward, , ellis, ablett , cuthbertson,
as i said generous, would struggle to put harris schoey and hanley as legends
should be for the pinnacles lewis jones, holmes , sinfield,,
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| Quote: doc-rhino "INOUT
qualities for a good christian and covering 2 small half backs tackling but for a legendary 2nd rower (twice failed prop) how many clean breaks were made , how many big hits? picking best backrowers since 99 he would be behind morley, farrell, glanville, sinfield, lauititi, ward, , ellis, ablett , cuthbertson,
as i said generous, would struggle to put harris schoey and hanley as legends
should be for the pinnacles lewis jones, holmes , sinfield,,'"
Like I said that's your opinion and mine is JJB is a legend you might not appreciate what he's done on a rugby field but others might. And really Cuthbertson over JJB? not sure i agree with that.
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| Quote: doc-rhino "INOUT
qualities for a good christian and covering 2 small half backs tackling but for a legendary 2nd rower (twice failed prop) how many clean breaks were made , how many big hits? picking best backrowers since 99 he would be behind morley, farrell, glanville, sinfield, lauititi, ward, , ellis, ablett , cuthbertson,
as i said generous, would struggle to put harris schoey and hanley as legends
should be for the pinnacles lewis jones, holmes , sinfield,,'"
I remember him for some stand-out moments, his pass to Smith in the 07 GF, his kick chase in the 08 WCC but mostly for his tireless and consistent effort, not all quality work is flashy. How many clean breaks or big hits did Peacock make? Very few. But he is also rightly a legend of not only Leeds but the sport.
Also you can’t genuinely put JJB behind Ellis, Ward, Ablett & Cuthbertson. Ellis only played for Leeds for 4 seasons, Ward has done nothing above JJB in his time so far, same for Ablett.
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| JJB is clearly a legend. Without players like him McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield don’t get to do the things they did. They all contributed in different ways to an outstanding team and period in the clubs history.
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