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| Quote: FGB "The documentary was quite an eye opener for me to be honest. Even McD's biggest apologists may have to admit he doesn't come out of that looking great.'" Disagree. McDermott came across as a thoughtful, intelligent man facing the huge challenge of getting the best out of a group which included other strong, intelligent men. And Zak Hardaker.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Quote: The Ghost of '99 "The documentary was quite an eye opener for me to be honest. Even McD's biggest apologists may have to admit he doesn't come out of that looking great.'" Disagree. McDermott came across as a thoughtful, intelligent man facing the huge challenge of getting the best out of a group which included other strong, intelligent men. And Zak Hardaker.'"
Fair do's. Interested to hear your thoughts on how he handled Leuluai?
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| Personally I don't think anyone came out of it badly and I include Zac.
The viewer is never going to get the inside scoop on everything and there is obviously more to the Sinfield/RU move and the fall out than will ever come out in public.
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| FWIW I think it quiet interesting and gives us, not in the know a partial insight and answers to questions raised in the past re Burrow , Sinfield, Lelulia and probabilties about McGuires move to KR. No one comes out of it badly but it certainly shows how stubborn Brian Mc can be.
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| I'll start by saying my respect for and admiration of Sir Kevin Sinfield and the part he played in the Golden Generation, remains intact. He was, is and always will be a Leeds legend. But, I did find his comments about writing it all down a little disturbing. It sounded like he had real beef with Mac and his comments about not enjoying his last season and counting down the minutes were, I felt, a little sad. That said he played his heart out when he did get back in the team, which is a testament to his entire approach to his career, THE consummate professional.
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| I see no one proof read the closing credits.........
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| you type in as good as it gets on amazon, and it just brings up the jack Nicholson film.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "you type in as good as it gets on amazon, and it just brings up the jack Nicholson film.'"
It's on Amazon prime not the main Amazon site.
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| I put 'Leeds Rhinos' into the search engine and found it that way. I'm saving it for tomorrow night, but I watched the opening credits. All filmed around LS6, specifically the Harolds and Alexandra road. 'Harold Mount' could be seen. I bought my first house on that street.
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| I've watched it twice now, I think it is a great piece of documentary film making. I also defy any one who follows Leeds to watch the Chip through from Danny to Hall and not smile. Great memories.
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| Quote: FoxyRhino "It's on Amazon prime not the main Amazon site.'"
yeah i know, got it now re typed but filtered if for sport movies and got in in watch-list.
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| Quote: Matt_Horton "I see no one proof read the closing credits.........'"
I reckon it is someone off here who wrote the closing credits. They've been calling him that for as long as I can remember.
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| I was half thinking the closing credits typo was deliberate as several of the players - including JJB who was the leading figure in this being made - make/made a point of calling him Burrows in public.
OTOH it's equally possible that it is a cock up.
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| Actually a bit disappointed by it. Think the start and introduction takes too long and serves no real purpose (those clips of rioting at the start have zero to do with the story), I know you need to set the scene for later but still too long - the one loss they make an effort to talk is the 2005 CC seemingly only to give airtime to Kath. (Why not the 2003 CC or 2005 GF???)
The Sinfield being dropped issue I think is over exaggerated, they make it sound like he was dropped for a significantly time when really it was two games and McDermott even says he told Sinfield we'd need him if we were to win the GF so hardly kicked to the curb like they tried to portray and I'm actually a bit surprised/disappointed by Sinfield's comments.
Someone earlier was critical of McDermott, why? Yes he's obviously made tough and unpopular calls.....hell that's coaching, do you think Alex Ferguson made popular calls every time. One thing Sinfield says that does hold true, "if you look at both sides of an argument the truth is probably somewhere in the middle" and I think most times people haven't been prepared to even look at McDermott's POV.
For all the criticisms of McDermott being an egotist, he again puts credit down to the players. Could've easily taken the credit for the Hudds game but he admitted he couldn't give Sinfield a decision on whether to take the two, he gives Sinfield ALL the credit for getting himself back in the team and freely admits he was poor/clunky when in discussions with Burrow over the years and never truly handle it well. Also Sinfield said if he could pick ANY coach to come in when McLennen left it would've been McDermott, so the theory that it was a cheap choice by GH looks stupid.
Previous GF's wins are glossed over quickly "they won the GF in 2011 and 2012". Doesn't even tell half the story of those years or lay the platform of why winning the LLS (which they build so much later) was significant...a casual or non RL fan won't know the significance of that team landing the LLS in 2015. Those other GF years and and even the 2015 CCF and post losing streak is rushed through yet we get plenty of JJB....who god bless him he's a great servant and he's obviously helped put this film together, but his personal story shouldn't prioritise over significant events. His being involved in the films development hurts it's as they focus too much on him.
One thing I'm really disappointed by is the Hardaker part. Firstly he/they say it was the 2014 4 Nations and the fallout made him train hard in preseason and lead him to a great 2015. That's nonsense, it was the 2013 WC and a few more incidents happened after that that they club had to really defend him from. Absolutely zero mention of one of the key issues of 2015, Hardaker's attack on a student that saw us close to sacking a key player. No talk of how his teammates/coach/GH felt or dealt with the issue. Massive missed bit out of it.
Making no mention of how the 2014 season finished (until much later on briefly after the 2015 CC F clips) or how significant it was to finally land the CC was quite poor as it was significant in how we approached 2015 if you recall some of the interviews at that time.
Basically no point in Briscoe, Hall or Ward being in it and their's a clear difference between those who have left the club and those who are still there with how freely they speak and it shows that something like this should be done further in the future when everybody has moved on.
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| Very OTT & didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.
Was enormously let down by it.
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