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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It can be and I expect will be taken into account.
Section 2.3.4 from the guidelines.
2.3.4 Injury
If the Misconduct has caused injury to an opponent, this may result in a higher penalty than if
no injury had occurred.
Panels may consider the length of time an injured opponent is likely to be out of the game
when passing sentence.
But it shouldnt whether Gildart plays next week or never plays again doesn't alter what Ferres did.
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| I don`t think for one minute Ferres wanted to deliberately break a guys back.
Nobody in their right mind can think he did that to cause so much harm to a fellow player.
I do think he wanted to hit him hard to prove a point following the handbags that went on earlier.
He has made a mistake and will be rightly punished probably for 8 games.
At least the next time Leeds play Wigan it will add some more spice to the game especially as Mickey Mac and Bateman will be back.
Let`s hope Gildart makes a full recovery and he is not rushed back too soon.
And like others have said the medical team at Wigan should have taken more care over the players welfare or Wane should if he was the one who made the decsion to bring him back on.
On the same subject has McDermott come out and said how Ferres has now let his team mates down just like he did with Brad Singleton?
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| Quote: chapylad "On the same subject has McDermott come out and said how Ferres has now let his team mates down just like he did with Brad Singleton?'"
No, but then again he said that about Singleton AFTER he was banned, not hours before the hearing was due to take place.
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| Quote: chapylad "I don`t think for one minute Ferres wanted to deliberately break a guys back.
Nobody in their right mind can think he did that to cause so much harm to a fellow player.
I do think he wanted to hit him hard to prove a point following the handbags that went on earlier.
He has made a mistake and will be rightly punished probably for 8 games.
At least the next time Leeds play Wigan it will add some more spice to the game especially as Mickey Mac and Bateman will be back.
Let`s hope Gildart makes a full recovery and he is not rushed back too soon.
And like others have said the medical team at Wigan should have taken more care over the players welfare or Wane should if he was the one who made the decsion to bring him back on.
On the same subject has McDermott come out and said how Ferres has now let his team mates down just like he did with Brad Singleton?'"
That's how I saw it, between Gildart pushing up and forwards to try and get a quick play the ball and Ferres trying to stop him Gildart ended up in a dangerous position. The problem is Ferres then thought "I'll show them" and dropped onto Gildart without considering that Gildart's neck was bent, it's entirely Ferres' fault that the injury has occurred but there was no intent to injure. We rightly wont be seeing him again until June and I hope that Gildart can recover from this quickly and fully as it is a horrific injury.
I do hope that the RFL ask the medical team what the hell they were thinking letting Gildart back on though. Obviously they didn't have the knowledge we all do now but it was clear that Gildart was in no fit state to be on a rugby pitch and if we had gone his way in the short time he was on we could be talking a lot more than three fractured vertebrae.
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| Quote: chapylad "I don`t think for one minute Ferres wanted to deliberately break a guys back.
Nobody in their right mind can think he did that to cause so much harm to a fellow player.
I do think he wanted to hit him hard to prove a point following the handbags that went on earlier.
He has made a mistake and will be rightly punished probably for 8 games.
At least the next time Leeds play Wigan it will add some more spice to the game especially as Mickey Mac and Bateman will be back.
Let`s hope Gildart makes a full recovery and he is not rushed back too soon.
And like others have said the medical team at Wigan should have taken more care over the players welfare or Wane should if he was the one who made the decsion to bring him back on.
On the same subject has McDermott come out and said how Ferres has now let his team mates down just like he did with Brad Singleton?'"
McIlorum and Bateman the goon squad.
Ironic that Wigan are crowing about those pair of numbskulls when their 'justice' is invariably cheaps shots.
The irony is not lost on me.
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| Quote: krisleeds "McIlorum and Bateman the goon squad.
Ironic that Wigan are crowing about those pair of numbskulls when their 'justice' is invariably cheaps shots.
The irony is not lost on me.'"
Were you born with very little brain cells or are you just flat out thick? Gildart has broken 3 vertabraes in his back? And you think just because we have some dirty players, Ferres should get away with it? And no I didn't defend the flower incident before you say, I think he was lucky not to be sacked but imo nearly breaking someone's back is worse than punching someone undefenceless?, an 8 game ban he should get at least. And if a Wigan player did that they'd deserve the same
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| Just seen it again on the Super League Show. 8 matches would be harsh, mainly because I think intent will be hard to prove. He definitely deserves a ban, but I don't think it should be the max. Maybe 4-6.
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| Quote: KingRoss11 "Were you born with very little brain cells or are you just flat out thick? Gildart has broken 3 vertabraes in his back? And you think just because we have some dirty players, Ferres should get away with it? And no I didn't defend the flower incident before you say, I think he was lucky not to be sacked but imo nearly breaking someone's back is worse than punching someone undefenceless?, an 8 game ban he should get at least. And if a Wigan player did that they'd deserve the same'"
I applaud your post ross. the problem is a few years back we had wigan fans aplenty on here saying they hoped McGuire never played again.
people remember these things and sadly mud sticks
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| Quote: KingRoss11 "Were you born with very little brain cells or are you just flat out thick? Gildart has broken 3 vertabraes in his back? And you think just because we have some dirty players, Ferres should get away with it? And no I didn't defend the flower incident before you say, I think he was lucky not to be sacked but imo nearly breaking someone's back is worse than punching someone undefenceless?, an 8 game ban he should get at least. And if a Wigan player did that they'd deserve the same'"
Ferres' tackle was poor. Very poor and has lead to a serious injury. But it was a poor tackle nonetheless. You could argue that it was "intentional" and you can also argue that it was "unfortunate" due to the added weight of Delaney and what looked to be Gildart pushing back. Which you pick is most likely down to which player is wearing your teams jersey.
Flower's attack ended a career (no doubt that Ferres could also have done that). One punch can be all it takes to kill somebody. I'd rather have Fatty Ferres sat on me than Biffy Ben thwacking me round the head.
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| Quote: Wardy67 "Ferres' tackle was poor. Very poor and has lead to a serious injury. But it was a poor tackle nonetheless. You could argue that it was "intentional" and you can also argue that it was "unfortunate" due to the added weight of Delaney and what looked to be Gildart pushing back. Which you pick is most likely down to which player is wearing your teams jersey.
Flower's attack ended a career (no doubt that Ferres could also have done that). One punch can be all it takes to kill somebody. I'd rather have Fatty Ferres sat on me than Biffy Ben thwacking me round the head.'"
If fatty Ferres was near you, you wouldn't be the only member of your family he'd be sat on
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| Quote: KingRoss11 "If fatty Ferres was near you, you wouldn't be the only member of your family he'd be sat on'"
Probably be shagging my wife while sitting on the rest of my family too
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: KingRoss11 "Were you born with very little brain cells or are you just flat out thick? Gildart has broken 3 vertabraes in his back? And you think just because we have some dirty players, Ferres should get away with it? And no I didn't defend the flower incident before you say, I think he was lucky not to be sacked but imo nearly breaking someone's back is worse than punching someone undefenceless?, an 8 game ban he should get at least. And if a Wigan player did that they'd deserve the same'"
Spare us the hyperbole, nobody has suggested Ferres 'Get away with It' everybody agrees he should get a ban but comparisons with Flower are just silly.
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| Quote: Clearwing "Regardless of whether we have a wider issue with discipline, I was pretty disgusted by Ferres' foul the other night. Malicious and dangerous in the extreme. I know some fans will rush to excuse it, or argue it's worth a ban of a game or two at most. Without knowing its official grading I reckon that a foul of that nature should have a start point of maybe 8 games. Not gonna go down well but that's my opinion.'"
its leeds he will only get 4 games
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| He probably should. John Bateman got 3 games for a crusher tackle.
8 games is the maximum for that offence. If we give Ferres 8 games what do we do with crusher tackles which are worse.
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