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My point was Clark is a quality hooker produced in the last 10 years. Clark has a lot more to has game than scooting.

Warrington score lots of tries out wide that would not be possible if all Clark did was scoot - its one of the problems Leeds have when Burrow is playing 9

What Clark is very proficient at is knowing when to scoot and making sure it counts when he does.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "My point was Clark is a quality hooker produced in the last 10 years. Clark has a lot more to has game than scooting.

Warrington score lots of tries out wide that would not be possible if all Clark did was scoot - its one of the problems Leeds have when Burrow is playing 9

What Clark is very proficient at is knowing when to scoot and making sure it counts when he does.'"


Clark is no genius, one marker and he goes - every time. He's got gas so he keeps it very simple. He's patient with it, two marker and he passes. He's not the great ball player but his pass goes where it needs to most of the time.

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McIlorum is way behind the others mentioned in skill terms. What he has, that the others don't, is the ability to raise the level of the other players around him.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Daryl Clark?'"

Yep forgot about Clark.

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Quote: Gotcha "What you have done there though is name the four main ones. Toby wasn't even an hooker in his younger days.

There was no difference between the players you mentioned and the likes of McShane, Hood, Milner, etc, in their amateur days. It's what happens next that seems to stump. I agree on the scooting encouraged though at amateur level. I just think without the hooker no longer a skilled position, coaches do not know the best play.'"

The point of naming those 4 (5 with Clark) was to point out that there's relatively few top hookers being produced across the game. Which would point to it not being a solely Leeds issue.
I'd say hooker is a skilled position it's just those skills have changed and part of the reason why it's difficult to tell who will make a good hooker is because those skills are similar to that needed to play in the halves.

Also, if we improved the amateur game as a whole with better coaching, better environments and skills coached rather than results then the whole sport will benefit. And we'd get more players through who can actually play hooker rather than just run from dummy half.

One of the differences between us and the NRL is the quality and consistency of passing and the most obvious gap is the passing from acting half. Theirs is far more consistent than ours.

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What about Cameron smith for the future? I've heard you say he has the physical attributes of a forward with the ball skills as a half, could it be a good move to line him up as our future 9?

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Quote: Joshheff90 "What about Cameron smith for the future? I've heard you say he has the physical attributes of a forward with the ball skills as a half, could it be a good move to line him up as our future 9?'"


He is not quick enough to play hooker

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Leeds confirm they are interested in Mitch Rein.

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Not big on NRL,s he any good ?

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Who cares? He's called Mitch so we're having him.

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Quote: Frosties. "Leeds confirm they are interested in Mitch Rein.'"


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Mitch Rein is a criminally underrated player from what I've seen. To be honest, I'd rather sign him than Farrah.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Mitch Rein is a criminally underrated player from what I've seen. To be honest, I'd rather sign him than Farrah.'"


Completely agree with this. He's a fantastic defender, quick, good distribution and loves a scoot.... There has actually been some suggestion he does a little too much scooting and tackling which make his figures look excellent, but can actually limit his impact to the team, but I certainly don't see that as an issue - particularly if he was at Leeds.

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