He was nothing more than a turnstyle tonight. Quite sad to see really. Junior Moors will be wishing he can run at him every week.

Cuthbertson disappointed me a lot tonight in regards to effort. Even Galloway who has taken some stick tried more than most.

Oh and whoever suggests moving JJB back to 2nd row after what happened in that game when they murdered us in that area needs their heads checking. Said he wasn't mobile enough anymore to defend in that position and it showed badly tonight and a large chunk of Castleford's points came from the decision to play him there.

I think Galloway has at least had a dig. Put some good shots in defensively even when the game was gone.

Cant fault JJB for effort, but his legs have gone. If we have him and Delaney on the field at the same time we'll have the slowest pack in SL by an absolute distance.

I had JJB marked down as somebody who could still do a job if required in the second row. Its clear his days there are done now i concede. We look very weak with so many little guys on at once on the fringes though, Lilley, Burrow and Golding try their best but there are too many targets for the big guys from opposition teams to go at.

Come on now everybody - stop panicking!!

It's obvious to any sensible supporter that the true problems can be traced back to the floods in December, our game against the Kiwis & SPOTY.

Added to this our injury list is far worse than any other club.

Mr McDermott definitely knows what he is doing & is a tremendous coach. You only have to look at how highly motivated this whole squad looks, how structured our attack is, & how determined our defense is.

I would also argue that Mr Hetherington has it all under control & definitely hasn't been complacent about the non-replacement of Sinfield & Peacock - there are plenty of youngsters that can shoulder their burden.

Cuthbo didn't look fit.

The pack needs completely ripping to shreds and starting again, there's far too many big, slow flat footed props who struggle to cover their own space let alone asking them to do it without a hooker. Our back row is equally cumbersome.

Defence and our attitude towards it is awful. JP called the Saints players on it in their cup game, I'd hate to hear what he had to say about Leeds' effort tonight.

It's all about collective responsibility playing a team sport,it's that simple,train hard,get the coaching side implemented effectively,sort out a game plan,walk over the whitewash,do the business.we all know about the injury situation,but if all the team was fully fit,I don't see us getting much different results.its all about next season now.any more dear john letters from Gary will just show what utter contempt he has for the fans.

Yeah, forgot him. He has actually been one of the few to stick at it from minute one.Took a lot of stick on here first few weeks but has steadily improved, credit to him.

Just on tonight's showing I'd say Burrow & Lilley. Golding tried hard to stop the constant siege that coming towards him especially in the 2nd half. Whilst JJB struggled badly in defence he still have some carries that looked like he gave a damn. Galloway was ok and produced probably the only good crushing tackle we made all night on Dorn.

After his try not much from Garbutt. Handley got a try but apart from that could join the other culprits and people have overexaggerated his performances just we can't count Hall and Briscoe aren't missed. He's not handled kicks and was lazy in preventing Gale's 40/20 and the usual starters have been slammed for those things. Can't believe some wanted Hardaker as captain. Looked like a performance from somebody not happy because he got asked to play on the wing so wasn't bothered.

Goes without saying ,major problems and it's not just Training ground ,injuries and 3 players Leaving .

1. I can't believe Hardaker is not playing at full-back. The worst thing you can do with somebody out of form is to shunt them to a position they are unaccustomed to. It only takes one good game to regain form, but he's unlikely to do it from the wing/centre.
2. Realistically, the attack suffers from not having Hall, Moon and Briscoe. Put those three back into the backline and it becomes more dangerous.
3. In the modern game, the pivotal positions (full back, halves and hooker) are vital. They are the positions in which successful teams always have top players. At the moment, your best full back is one the wing, your halves are weak and you have no 9.

We need a Roy Francis type to come in and rebuild like he did when we were in the doldrums in the early sixties

Firatly it's not a position he's unaccustomed to.

Secondly, I'm surprised he's been moved there but if his response is to put in a half ar$ed showing because he's been asked to play another role then he shouldn't waltz back into his usual position. At least Golding was one of the few guys who tried tonight.

I don't think its a big player overhaul needed. Yes a few may need to move on but its the coaching set up, a new voice, new ideas that this group need now.Somebody to reinvigorate players who clearly need a re boot. Over to GH but as others have said, he is likely to be too stubborn to act immediately.

Hardaker, for whatever reason, has been completely f'ed over by McDermott this season.

You don't put a guy who was proven to be the league's best fullback - indeed was judged by his peers to be the league's best player - out on the wing while you play an unproven kid whose confidence you could shatter at fullback - along with hooker the most important position in th modern game (not that we bother playing a booker either).

It's bizarre, and can only be the equivalent of a punishment beating or whatever it was they did in the Marines. He won't be the first player to get that treatment - he hasn't even been the first this season - but it's a spectacular way of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Even an off-form Hardaker stops some of the Cas tries tonight. In fact, when he finally switched there after an hour we stopped leaking points.