Completely agree about cuthbertson at the end. We were 14 down with 6 mins left, game had gone and the guy had run himself into the ground.

It took us until the 60 min mark until we eventually broke the defensive line, we made KR look like the NRL premiers

The first 20 minutes of the Sky game last night illustrated exactly what Leeds problems are. With Gidley and Sandow Warrington had a balanced pair of halves who linked with each other and connected forwards and backs superbly. Sandow also looked very dangerous running. By the time Sandow did his hammy Warrington had won that game.
Chris Hill was magnificent as well and reminded me of what Kylie used to bring, he won every collision and landed on his knees and elbows so no amount of t@tting around by the goons at the tackle could stop a quick PTB.

I'm not a believer in simple fixes for complex problems but if you stuck Warringtons starting halves in our team we would not be worried about anything.

Look at the Hull KR tries
1. JJB comes out of the line leaves a huge gap Lunt trots over
2. Greenwood runs through a pathetic attempt from Mullally to get within 2 yards of the line Lunt a simple play
3. Burrow completely misses a kick two passes later its with Dixon who runs past both Hardaker and Watkins who if they had been more alert might have stopped him.
4. Yet another poor attempt at a tackle from Singleton leaves a huge gap and Cockayne simple - made even more simple by Hardaker's abject attempt at anything
5. Ablett again misses a simple tackle and a year ago Hardaker would have stopped it not this year
6. Mulhern runs past an exhausted Cuthbertson - Hardaker is once again nowhere other than shouting at Cuthbertson - nice!!

These are mistakes being made by experienced players not rookies - these structures should be set in stone no matter who plays. These guys have been playing together long enough that it should just almost muscle memory.

Aww didums things not going your way,what a shame

These things happen - can't win all the time - as a Hull supporter something you know a lot about

FC fans getting a bit cocky and coming on here sticking the boot in, sounds about right.must be getting a bit boring on their board with nothing to write the last few weeks on the sack the coach/pearson/why are we so crap? etc... threads they have all lived in for the last few years.

As much as I'm enjoying Leeds' demise, don't embarrass us all please. You know as well as I do that every Hull defeat is greeted by a full root and branch investigation on our forum.

There was an alarming lack of desire last night. I rarely saw Leeds players bending their backs. Too much grabbing around the shoulders.

Well were certainly the more enthusiastic side, by some distance.

Wigan had pretty much zero skill last night, were missing several key players but we're in the game because they were still putting four men in the tackle in the 75th minute and their line speed never dropped.
There's a lesson there. If it's not clicking with the ball up the work rate without it and you'll always have a chance.

Agree but at present, energy, fitness are a long way off getting anywhere near that

The team do look unfit and lacking energy.

Remind me, who recently joined the fitness and conditioning staff?

That's right, it's Ian Kirke's fault.

Well they whole squad looks in poor physical condition.... to much work in the gym and not enough with the ball.

As a FC fan, Leeds born and lived here all my life, it's hard to resist, especially given the absolute canning I've taken over the years at work in Leeds from Rhino's fans who don't even go to games.

So you've lost a few games, big deal you won the bl00dy treble last year and have had 10 years of glory. Some of the comments on this forum and on twitter are frankly risible. A season of rebuilding and you'll be back challenging. Sacking MCD is not the answer, certainly not before we play you.

#50nilthough

And that is what happens when the assistant left to do preseason whilst the coach peed about isn't the USA, is a conditioner who didn't play the game at a level. Not that the coach has skills either like. But of course we don't need assistants.