He won't, why let facts get in the way of a good close season rant

Don't forget the 2003 and 2005 CC finals.

I feel for Sutcliffe. He's on a hiding to nothing. All you lot building him up like the Messiah. As soon as he has a bad game, you'll want him out of the team. Just like with Mac after Wembley.

You couldn't be more inaccurate if you tried.

I think Him summed it up nicely with- Eh?

You talk more b0ll0x than your namesake. Quote one post of mine where I called for BM to be kicked out. I don't think anyone thinks Sutcliffe is anything other than a guy who's earned his shot at first team rugby. You however seem to think we should opt to buy in talent on every occasion rather than give our own home grown talent a go.

Ian Kirke has rejoined the Rhinos

This is good, nice to see him back and without the pressure of having to play.

I think you are mixing up the position with the point of an organiser.

He certainly aint a fullback. He may be better as a looseforward. But stand off is his position through his career so far. What he isn't is an organiser, and nor too is Danny McGuire, and if your point has been lost here, because you actually mean McGuire and Sutcliffe is not the way to go, then I agree with you. But I don't agree he can't be the stand off full stop.

So what is the way to go then Gotcha?

And if you don't play Sutcliffe at 6, given Leeds are set up to play with the extra big man at 13, where do you play him?

Based on his performances in tandem with McGuire last season, Sutcliffe deserves first shot in 2016. If it doesn't work, then you can look at making changes for 2017, but at least give him the opportunity that he's earned first.

Me, I am not the one arguing. But I will be very surprised if that half back pairing works out a success, and then we end up writing off a good individual player who has a lot of potential.

I would have signed a top class scrum half, who can organise and move the team around the park, and I would have put McGuire back at six, with Sutcliffe on the bench where he can play a lot of different positions as we need it, to learn a bit more.

It might take a while to gel properly but I'd go with McGuire & Sutcliffe in the halves. We should have a pretty strong pack and 1-5 are sound too. By my reckoning, there ain't going to be a much better environment for a young player to learn the ropes at 6.

That is all well and good but which top class organising half could we have got? they are a very rare breed, perhaps only Brough comes close for me in SL.

I think McGuire and Sutcliffe will work well as a pair.McGuire as skipper is more than capable of of stepping up to the plate now he will be seen as senior half back, he has already adapted his all round game well the last couple of years since his pace went. Sutcliffe will only get better now the more he plays and with faith shown in him by the club.

We have a strong looking forward pack, and are a winning team high on confidence, with plenty of experience. There's no better time for a young half to come into the side. We just have to be patient.