bitter? no.
just asking a q and answering your statement

the dark days of peter fox were bitter

I find it ridiculous that people are suggesting He would have lost his job had we not won the league leaders or the GF. We'd have overachieved on many peoples in the media and on here for that fact predictions. Sure it would have been disappointing but it would still have been a relatively successful season.

Wonder how many of these said posters were also in the gang baying for sinfield to get dropped earlier this season, look how that turned out........

Well I would hope that supporters would have sufficient rugby acumen to see how well the team has played over the season and the obvious input from the coach. You could also take into account the entertaining style Mac has produced and how he got the players up off the floor after the post Wembley defeats.

So had we not won anything other than the Cup he would still have been in for the coach of the season award on merit.

That you ask the question would indicate that you judge the coach purely on trophies (which is sad) but as we won the lot - all three then I do not understand why you pose the question in the first place

May I ask you to answer your own question?

One of the things Peacock praised him about was the fact that despite being somewhat a control freak in many respects he allows the players to take ownership of what happens during the 80 mins on the pitch.

It's also treating them like grown ups. Too many coaches or owners treat them like u12's. Screaming and shouting just doesn't work.

See Daniel Anderson, 2008.

True, and it's not just a case of treating them like grown ups, it's acknowledging the success they'd already achieved before he took over with respect.

Would that style have worked in 2004 with no trophies under their belt, possibly not. Would Smith's style worked had he come in 2011? Possibly not. McClennen a spot on guy for inbetween.

All 3 have been appointed at the right time for where the squad were at at the time and what they needed.

The negativity you speak of can be found on this forum but IMO it does not truly represent the views of the mass of Leeds supporters nor the powers that be at the club and in the game as a whole. I would expect Mac to be with Leeds for the foreseeable future and will oversea the transition period with skill and dedication.

You obviously have yet to be enlightened regarding our record breaking coaches qualities.

arthur scargill had a job for life

Given the quality & experience we've seen depart this past season it'll be interesting to see how he'll approach the dressing room going forward into 2016 and beyond.

lt will, though I think enough old heads remain for him to be able to carry on in the same vein. Food for thought with regard to whether we retain players too long.

Yes.And i think the amount of influence Cuthbertson had on the side right for the word go, will mean he will play a crucial role on the leadership side of things alongside the likes of McGuire,Burrow,Ablett and JJB when fit.

and now there's not much more than jc and your happy pills defending him now

i said win or lose he should go last year , could have left at the top like ferguson did and left a mess for his moyes

Well, it seems i was way off with my expectations of these lot stepping up as leaders up to now, JJB excluded probably for his lead by example efforts.

Im not the only one, reading back it seems a long time since October when many of us on here thought all things were still rosy in the garden.

I'd take a punt and say that you probably wanted him gone at the end of 2014 too and then who knows if we're successful or not in 2015.

Maybe in the days after the GF it did cross his mind that it would be the perfect time to move on in terms of a successful finish for himself. However it would've been dumping the club into a bit of a mess to have to suddenly find a new coach in the off-season at the same time as Sinfield, Peacock and Leuluai have departed.

To be fair to the guy the last thing he will have wanted is for Sinfield and Peacock to decide to retire in the same season. In an ideal world I'm sure any coach would've preferred them to retire in separate seasons so that you aren't losing all that leadership in one go.

I wonder if Sinfield and Peacock had retired in separate years, how the first season post them would've gone.