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| Quote: deslawson "Kelly was offered a 2 year deal at manly from next season,but opted to stay as he and his family are happy here.Still Iam sure you watch him every week and will know how he plays,If you dont see it maybe you should go to specsavers.
A 2 year deal at Manly. As a direct replacement for DCE?
Have they changed the structure in the NRL so only the bottom 8 make the playoffs?
I've seen enough of Kelly to know he's hugely over-hyped on the basis of a couple of length of the field tries early in the year.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "A 2 year deal at Manly. As a direct replacement for DCE?
Have they changed the structure in the NRL so only the bottom 8 make the playoffs?
I've seen enough of Kelly to know he's hugely over-hyped on the basis of a couple of length of the field tries early in the year.'"
He might be over hyped, that is true, but he is exciting to watch, which to be fair is what spectators pay for. What isn't debatable however, is that he came from the NRL, he was wanted back by the NRL, so therefore it is wrong to say they would not touch him.
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| The only way I can see a HKR win is by a fantastic 17-man showing. Whether Kelly plays well, or indeed plays at all, is of relatively minor importance in comparison.
And Leeds should expect HKR to play the game of their lives. I don't think this'll be an easy game by any stretch.
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| When we play well as a team we can match anyone when we don't were terrible hence getting beat 60-0 at Wigan and then going there the following week and beating them we've beaten Wigan Wire and Catalans twice also Saints but have also lost to Wakefield Widnes and Salford
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| Quote: Clearwing "The only way I can see a HKR win is by a fantastic 17-man showing. Whether Kelly plays well, or indeed plays at all, is of relatively minor importance in comparison.
And Leeds should expect HKR to play the game of their lives. I don't think this'll be an easy game by any stretch.'"
Without a doubt HKR will be fired up as you say; I'm also hoping the whirlwind Leeds start combined with the occassion overwhelming HKR will more than counteract that. Here's hoping Cuthbertson doesn't do 'a Buderus' with his first touch.
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| Looking forward to this game, with so many stalwarts leaving and a few out injured I think our intensity will be very high ,got to be able to control our enthusiasm
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| Key for HKR in their cup wins has been some tenacious defence. In the first 30 mins vs Warrington they could've been 3 scores down with the possession Wire had near KR's goal line. However doing that on the compact Headingley pitch is one thing, but the size of the Wembley pitch is another kettle of fish especially against this Leeds side who I think showed vs Saints that we will still play our attacking style despite the occasion. We're just as likely to score a try from 70m out as we are 7m away so it makes life so much harder for the opposition defence when they aren't just dealing with run of the mill-up the middle-complete the set rugby. Just can't see them being able to contain us to few enough points (less than 20) to win as I think defensively we've improved in the cup matches that we won't ship many in at our end.
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| Headingley's hardly compact is it?
I was always under the impression it was pretty much full size. Much like myself.
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| This is the best Leeds side I have ever seen! ......In fact, this is the best rugby league side I have ever seen (including Australia)! ......And to think, some of your supporters were actually saying that your coach should walk early on in the season!!!! ......Talk about being complacent and overly use to winning!!!! ......Haha!!!! ......Those that did don't know a good thing if it bit them on the nose! .......Get a grip Leeds fans who actually question your coach and the way your team plays in 2015! ......You are without a doubt the best team within the world today! .......That said, Cup final day is a completely different kettle of fish! ......Haha! ......Come on Rovers! .......Fingers crossed!
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| Quote: Geoff Tipps "This is the best Leeds side I have ever seen! ......In fact, this is the best rugby league side I have ever seen (including Australia)! ......And to think, some of your supporters were actually saying that your coach should walk early on in the season!!!! ......Talk about being complacent and overly use to winning!!!! ......Haha!!!! ......Those that did don't know a good thing if it bit them on the nose! .......Get a grip Leeds fans who actually question your coach and the way your team plays in 2015! ......You are without a doubt the best team within the world today! .......That said, Cup final day is a completely different kettle of fish! ......Haha! ......Come on Rovers! .......Fingers crossed!'"
Indeed. And there has been a deafening silence from this group of keyboard coaches in showing any credit for what Big Mac has achieved so far this season. It seems they are waiting for Leeds to slip up before they start on him again. If we don't win the treble it will be the coaches fault for sure. When Mac first came he tried to get us to play the same way but the team were not quite ready for it, but BM was slated for playing "Harlem globetrotters" stuff with no structure and these same critics have been consistently calling for a new coach since.
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| I was on here at Easter saying how structured we were and his good BM had done. however to say they weren't ready is absolute rubbish. he's had 5 years with more or less the same players.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto ". And there has been a deafening silence from this group of keyboard coaches in showing any credit for what Big Mac has achieved so far this season. It seems they are waiting for Leeds to slip up before they start on him again. If we don't win the treble it will be the coaches fault for sure.'"
Like most jobs you are judged on results.
This season could still go all 2005 on us.
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| Leeds will win at a canter, we have no threats and can't defend. This is the best Leeds team ever and sending off a few legends.
As long as Leeds have that mindset we are in with a chance. Lets face that's what Wigan and Wire thought in this cup.
For all the great play Leeds have they also have a stinker in them, lets hope its at Wembley.
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| Quote: tad rhino "I was on here at Easter saying how structured we were and his good BM had done. however to say they weren't ready is absolute rubbish. he's had 5 years with more or less the same players.'"
Easter!! I know things are a bit behind in Tadcaster but surely Welles Fargo runs through there by now?
But since news has not reached you yet .....we have been top of the league for most of the season, we are a Wembley finalist and in a good position to finish in the top 4 maybe even in first place. We are playing a most attractive style of rugby admired by opposition fans and coaches alike. Even if we end up missing out on all three Cups the coaches achievement this year deserves great credit already.
Yet the best you can recall saying is something vaguely positive about our structure at Easter! Which underlines the point I made that Mac's long term critics will never be satisfied until he has been replaced which tells you a lot about their judgement and/or stubbornness which explains their deafening silence on the subject.
With regard to the offloading style: if the team were ready why did we change from the offloading game experiment 2011 then? Were you one of those that were critical of "the Harlem Globetrotters" style at the time?
In those five years he has won everything except the hub cap and even becoming Champions from 5th in the table during which time he has seen over the ongoing transition. Despite this achievements in each and every season the same gang of critics have been on his back so even when his team wins Cups
The current team is quite different from the one which beat Bradford at the Millennium Stadium in 2011. In fact 9 of the 17 are no longer with us and only Hall retains his place in the backs. It is likely that only 6 of that same 2011 team will be turning out for us this Friday against Wigan with only 3 in the same positions
So if you have finished chomping on your Easter eggs long enough to digest the fact we have an excellent coach who has answered his critics on the field. He has shown he can get the team to win cups against the odds and now play with structure in defense and free flowing in attack in a most entertaining fashion. On top of that he is managing the difficult transition so far with sound judgement too.
It would be nice for you to acknowledge his fine achievements.
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| I believe McDermott had far too much credit for previous achievements, which I don't think was deserved, and just followed the course of previous coaches with the players at his disposal. The rugby under him was dour, and poor to watch, and he continually flogged players to death with no idea of player welfare.
However, I don't think anyone can argue about what he has done with the side this year. This is his team now, and I said that at start of last year, but last year he failed in the main. This year however, the rugby played is a joy to watch, and far better than anything previous during his reign. I don't think he is flogging players, and I think in the main his tactics have been spot on. I think he has learned from his failings, but pity it took so long. I have always said 2005 was our best side, and we didn't win anything that year. I think this team playing is the equal of 2005, and if we win nothing this year, my opinion will not change, McDermott deserves credit for what he has done this year with this team, as cups or not the performances have been first class most of the time.
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