This. People massively underestimate the collisions the players take and how it affects their recovery after each game.
It's generally understood by conditioners that 5 days is the bare minimum needed for recovery between games.

You can't have read my 2nd post on this topic, I referenced part time players in the first sentence. I also alluded to the fact that they will ache for days due to the high impact nature of the game. If Singleton is carrying an injury or injuries that affect his performance to a great degree, it is negligent of the club to play him. Warrington have played more games than Leeds this year including a draining World Club Challenge, if Singleton is fatigued compared to the Wire forwards we should sack the entire conditioning team. Players will ache, it's,the nature of the game, players will sometimes play with injuries, ditto, but don't tell me a player that is spelled over 80 minutes one week is tired a full 7 days later.

Once the season starts, at any one time you'd expect a few players to be carrying minor injuries despite being fit enough to play.

General team lethargy is a different matter - hard to quantify but clear as day to see. The Bullodgs on the weekend looked the same - flat as a tack. Hasler even sent them back out on the pitch at half time to do warm-up exercises. Could BM's logic in not rotating forwards in that particular game be some kind of punishment aimed at letting them know he wasn't satisfied with their efforts?

I thought they'd done away with the old prescribed time limits in favour of more rigorous assessment? I thought it was more like 48 hours without symptoms?

Quote: El Diablo "I thought they'd done away with the old prescribed time limits in favour of more rigorous assessment? I thought it was more like 48 hours without symptoms?'" There's now a "Graduated Return To Play" (GRTP) protocol that has to be observed. A player cannot return to play within 144 hours of being diagnosed with concussion. So if the diagnosis wasn't made until 9:20 last Friday night, Watkins won't be available for tonight. The only way he can play tonight is if the medical staff assessed him as not suffering a concussion at the time. All concussions have to be registered with the RFL within 24 hours of diagnosis, so they can monitor whether the GRTP protocol is being observed. The protocol is set out at www.sportsconcussion.com/what-is ... y-protocol and while it enables the player to train they cannot return to play until Stage 5 has been completed and each stage takes 24 hours to complete.

Quote: El Diablo "I thought they'd done away with the old prescribed time limits in favour of more rigorous assessment? I thought it was more like 48 hours without symptoms?'" There's now a "Graduated Return To Play" (GRTP) protocol that has to be observed. A player cannot return to play within 144 hours of being diagnosed with concussion. So if the diagnosis wasn't made until 9:20 last Friday night, Watkins won't be available for tonight. The only way he can play tonight is if the medical staff assessed him as not suffering a concussion at the time. All concussions have to be registered with the RFL within 24 hours of diagnosis, so they can monitor whether the GRTP protocol is being observed. The protocol is set out at www.sportsconcussion.com/what-is ... y-protocol and while it enables the player to train they cannot return to play until Stage 5 has been completed and each stage takes 24 hours to complete.

Cheers Andy. Very enlightening.

Back to tonight's game

I think we might struggle tonight, Injuries mounting up and confidence took a knock last week, coupled with Hudd's improvement lately I think they will fancy their chances.

I agree it will be extremely difficult to get a win tonight. The disruption to our back line is a big problem and I fear Brough could expose our back 3. JJB's return is a big boost but we cannot expect him to be fully match fit. We will have to play Sinfield so let's hope his kicking game is on form. The key will be if our pack puts can put us on the front foot often enough.

Going to Hudds is always likely to be tricky. They wobbled at the start of the year, but they're a good side. Let's see how we bounce back from last week. We absolutely can win at their place, but they will be pretty confident. Should be good. I think we'll win by 8.

All the noise coming out at the minute is that Watkins will play.

Did Watkins actually get diagnosed with concussion? I remember the touchline reporter saying he wouldn't be returning to the game.....but considering that their was about 5 mins left and a 19 point gap then it may be that he didn't have concussion but we decided their was no point in throwing him back on?

You could say he didn't seem to know where he was for most of the game

Are we going to get the truth regarding what is going on with Sinfield ? Totally disrespectful the way McDermott treated him last week and now this...

Beyond the parts where he was out injured and Sutcliffe and McGuire were both excellent as we held top spot in the league? And the part where we very imminently have to plan his succession?

I'm not sure there needs to be any deeper truth. Has Sir Kev himself complained about it?

Had to start at 13 last week. Then not to be used till game gone was terrible coaching/man management.
Agree Sutcliffe been excellent but KS is wasted not being used at 13 or even 9 (I'm no Aiton fan)

None of this would have happened before his retirement announcement

An now on the missing list again.....