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| Goulding not Holding. Wrong club/era/position/sport.
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| GOLDING. Got there in the end.
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"In those circumstances Hardaker would be fullback, Briscoe centre and Holding wing, I think.
Isn't the concussion rule 6 days though? Moon would be available if all else well with him.'"
I'm not sure he'd go for Briscoe at left centre though because of the Burrow defensive issue. LC has to be 4th man in when Burrow is on (with McGuire that side also) so he might not fancy Briscoe there for that reason. Ablett is an obvious choice to go there but could depend on fitness of others in the 2nd row. If Achurch is still missing and with Delaney still feeling his way back to fitness, you would want Ablett in the back row.
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"Isn't the concussion rule 6 days though? Moon would be available if all else well with him.'"
There's no mandatory time out. Players have to take COG tests that measure reactions etc and get within a certain percentage of the baseline figure they set at the start of the season.
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| He was miles out of position for both tries, made almost no ground with kick returns and offered nothing in attack - for all he did we might as well have played with 12 men.
For all saying he 'did well' he did bugger all and is getting off lightly because he's an academy player the likes of nantwich are desperate to do well.
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| Quote Worlds Apart="Worlds Apart"He was miles out of position for both tries, made almost no ground with kick returns and offered nothing in attack - for all he did we might as well have played with 12 men.
For all saying he 'did well' he did bugger all and is getting off lightly because he's an academy player the likes of nantwich are desperate to do well.'"
he did well under the high ball for one.
he didnt make metres in the tackled, but he's a schoolkid and im not suprised he wasnt strong enough to do
given that he probably wasnt expected to play as soon as he has, im guessing he wont know the set plays we have or be able to play the same role in our system that Zak does. we also wont have plays specifically designed for his skill set
also, given how our attack in general wasnt very good on friday im really not sure what you expected him to do?
for a kid who isnt full time i thought he did well being thrown in the deep end at short notice, as seemingly did Peacock who gave him a lot of praise in his interview with the YEP
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| Quote Worlds Apart="Worlds Apart"He was miles out of position for both tries, made almost no ground with kick returns and offered nothing in attack - for all he did we might as well have played with 12 men.
For all saying he 'did well' he did bugger all and is getting off lightly because he's an academy player the likes of nantwich are desperate to do well.'"
Quote Worlds Apart="Him"utter ted lunacy'"
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| If Golding was that 'cack' a reasonably strong team like Warrington would have scored a lot more than 18 points.
The game is more physical than it was even a decade ago, so I'm not surprised a teenager struggled in that regard. His performance was also by contrast to Hardaker, one of the physically strongest full backs in SL, and whose game is based around strength. From what I've seen Golding's more of a ball handler with a bit of zip, which makes it far harder to make an impact on a team than a strength-based player.
In any event, if Hardaker is out (for a while at least), then Golding should be given his chance. He'll learn more playing against Warrington and Wigan than in a whole season at U 19.
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| He isn't or wasn't "cack" but it is a bit of an issue if Hardaker is missing for a prolonged/permanent period that we play in a certain way that doesn't suit Golding at the moment with his physical build. One of our strongest areas is the work our back 3 do in taking carries and making good metres back in our own half early in sets giving our forwards a breather. All three (Hardaker, Hall, Briscoe) were all in the top 10 in the league last season for metres made and also are for this year so far, in neither year did/does any other club have more than 1 back in the Top 15 (where yet another Leeds back in Watkins is roughly around both seasons).
Hardaker was top before missing this weekend and still sits 2nd. Last year he finished 3rd but would've comfortably finished top had he not gotten himself that 5 match suspension. Golding whilst an emerging talent and with some skill obviously doesn't have it in his locker YET to be giving us those kind of metres in that sort of fashion. I believe it's one of the main reasons why we opted to get Briscoe in ahead of BJB as the latter wasn't as strong in the donkey work department as our two current wingers are. It could be something Golding improves/develops in time but you'd imagine it'd take an off-season of bulking up ala Stevie Ward, which is obviously a significant period away from the present.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"He isn't or wasn't "cack" but it is a bit of an issue if Hardaker is missing for a prolonged/permanent period that we play in a certain way that doesn't suit Golding at the moment with his physical build. One of our strongest areas is the work our back 3 do in taking carries and making good metres back in our own half early in sets giving our forwards a breather. All three (Hardaker, Hall, Briscoe) were all in the top 10 in the league last season for metres made and also are for this year so far, in neither year did/does any other club have more than 1 back in the Top 15 (where yet another Leeds back in Watkins is roughly around both seasons).
Hardaker was top before missing this weekend and still sits 2nd. Last year he finished 3rd but would've comfortably finished top had he not gotten himself that 5 match suspension. Golding whilst an emerging talent and with some skill obviously doesn't have it in his locker YET to be giving us those kind of metres in that sort of fashion. I believe it's one of the main reasons why we opted to get Briscoe in ahead of BJB as the latter wasn't as strong in the donkey work department as our two current wingers are. It could be something Golding improves/develops in time but you'd imagine it'd take an off-season of bulking up ala Stevie Ward, which is obviously a significant period away from the present.'"
I would agree with all this.
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| Quote Worlds Apart="Worlds Apart"He was miles out of position for both tries, made almost no ground with kick returns and offered nothing in attack - for all he did we might as well have played with 12 men.
For all saying he 'did well' he did bugger all and is getting off lightly because he's an academy player the likes of nantwich are desperate to do well.'"
He contributed a damned sight more than Hardaker did.
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| I'm a bit bemused what people seem to think Hardaker offers linking into the line from full-back, other than to usually represent the end of a move by either taking the tackle or throwing a pass at someone's feet?
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