FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > Sam Burgess
216 posts in 15 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach12106No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2015Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10393.jpg
OBN Wannabe:10393.jpg



Quote: Brick with eyes "I wonder what will be going through his mind next October when he will be playing for England in the RU World Cup against Russia or Uruguay at Etihad Stadium, when up road on the very same evening it will be the Superleague Grand Final'"


Dunno.

If he plays in the World Cup (and I don't think he will), maybe we would be better asking what will be going through his mind when he lines up against Wales at Twickenham in front of 80000 while his England RL counterparts are contemplating not being able to sell out Doncaster's ground for the same fixture.

Or a similar crowd for a meaningful fixture against Australia that he has a credible chance of winning.

He'll be kicking himself.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach12106No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2015Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10393.jpg
OBN Wannabe:10393.jpg



Quote: Biff Tannen "I agree with this.I also think Sam has had assurances that he will play a part in the WC next year no matter what which is obviously the big draw card the RFU has money aside.

'"


I'm pretty confident he will have had no such assurances.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
755_1290430740.jpg
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21 A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg



Quote: El Diablo "On Sam Burgess, I read earlier that he was the first non-Australian to win the Clive Churchill medal. Is it daft of me to be a bit surprised that no kiwis have ever won it?'"


Willie Mason was born in NZ but obviously played for Aus. As close as you are going to get.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4938
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2018Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18261_1413138907.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18261.jpg



Quote: El Diablo "On Sam Burgess, I read earlier that he was the first non-Australian to win the Clive Churchill medal. Is it daft of me to be a bit surprised that no kiwis have ever won it?'"

Where did you read that?

I'm pretty sure that Wiganer Dave Bolton (Balmain) earned a Clive Churchill medal for his MoM performance in the 1969 Grand Final.

RankPostsTeam
International Star11412No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2021Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: William Eve "Where did you read that?

I'm pretty sure that Wiganer Dave Bolton (Balmain) earned a Clive Churchill medal for his MoM performance in the 1969 Grand Final.'"


He did, but his and many others from before 1986 were awarded the medal retrospectively. Burgess is the first non-Australian to win it properly on the occasion of the game since the Clive Churchill medal was introduced in 1986 for the MOM of the GF. At the time Bolton may have been the MOM but he didn't get a Clive Churchill medal. Of course you'll probably know this, you're just once again deliberately being an ar$e.

Clive Churchill was actually the losing coach the year Dave Bolton was MOM in 1969.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach12106No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2015Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10393.jpg
OBN Wannabe:10393.jpg



Quote: William Eve "Where did you read that?

I'm pretty sure that Wiganer Dave Bolton (Balmain) earned a Clive Churchill medal for his MoM performance in the 1969 Grand Final.'"


Internet somewhere.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7631No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Jul 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6016_1402401129.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6016.jpg



rlhttps://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid

Lots of different outlets claiming that Burgess is the first non Australian to win it, I have no idea btw.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4938
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2018Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18261_1413138907.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18261.jpg



Sam Burgess clearly wasn't the first non-Australian recipient of a Clive Churchill Medal.

Dave Bolton was.

This perpetration of historical inaccuracy is typical of a sport which cares so little for its past as it knee-jerks its way from one catastrophic agenda to another.

If the modern day messengers of Super League prefer to rewrite history, then so be it. Much of the games history was flushed down the toilet in the mid-90's anyhow.

I'd suggest that next on the agenda ought to be the complete erasure of all historical records relating to GB tests and proper international tours. That way, everyone can pretend the game as it currently stands is in a position of rude health to such an extent that it's never been in better shape.

The 2014 vintage is simply the best... better than all the rest, etc.

RankPostsTeam
International Star11412No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2021Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Sam Burgess was the first to win it.

Bolton got his retrospectively around 2 decades later when it was introduced AFTER Churchill's death in 1985.

Technically Burgass is the first non-Australian to WIN it. Stop being a whinging little b*tch for once and just accept the fact.

G1
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32302No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2018Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
982.jpg
[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: El Diablo "Dunno.

If he plays in the World Cup (and I don't think he will), maybe we would be better asking what will be going through his mind when he lines up against Wales at Twickenham in front of 80000 while his England RL counterparts are contemplating not being able to sell out Doncaster's ground for the same fixture.

Or a similar crowd for a meaningful fixture against Australia that he has a credible chance of winning.

He'll be kicking himself.'"

Quite.

Last week Sam displayed one of the most courageous sporting efforts from an English sportsman in an age. And who knew about it? The Australian sporting public, for sure, and a few thousand English fans that follow the NRL. But nobody in the mainstream English media. Nobody in the larger sporting public in this country.

If he is a success at Union, and I have no doubt he will be, he will be a national and possible global sporting superstar with a stage that his talents deserve. He will play regular and meaningful internationals in front of massive crowds that will have paid a premium to watch him.

I'm no fan of Union but it's foolish to pretend anybody would yearn for an international rugby league match when they will likely be playing in a union world cup.

As for him coming to Leeds or indeed Super League again, I very much doubt it.

RankPostsTeam
International Star6848No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68072_1442575000.jpg
What you looking at?....Butt Head!!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68072.jpg



Lets say burgess plays until he is mid to late 30's like Morley and Peacock.quite feasible if he don't become a crock.Then i think the earliest we can expect him back in SL is at the age of about 32/33 and that is when no massive offer is on the table from an NRL club and a Hull FC or a 'resurgent' Bulls are willing to offer way over the odds to top up his pension.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4938
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2018Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18261_1413138907.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18261.jpg



The only incentive that may have kept Sam Burgess in RL would have been a deliberate tweaking of the eligibility rules so that he could play in State of Origin. Former PNG skipper Adrian Lam certainly benefitted from such tweaking in the past.

Those eligibility rules appear to have been tightened somewhat in recent years. Had Burgess not played for GB and England, I'm sure he'd have earned a Kangaroo jersey by now as a starter, prior to being offered the Origin main course, just like Karmichael Hunt and James Tamou were.

International RL is no incentive to anyone with ambition because it's been reduced to a dead duck, end-of-season afterthought.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5526
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

1 Warrington 2 Hull 3 Wigan 4 Castleford 4 Castleford 5 St Helens 6 Leeds 7 Catalans 8 Hudedersfield 9 Widnes 10 Wakefield 11 Salford 12 Leigh Playoffs:Warrington Hull Wigan Castleford Four sides rejoining: Widnes Wakefield Salford Leigh GF Winners Warrington CC Winners Wigan:



Quote: G1 "Quite.

Last week Sam displayed one of the most courageous sporting efforts from an English sportsman in an age. And who knew about it? The Australian sporting public, for sure, and a few thousand English fans that follow the NRL. But nobody in the mainstream English media. Nobody in the larger sporting public in this country.....
'"


That is incorrect, but the interest & coverage stemmed mainly from the fact that he is on his way to join Bath RU & the injuries he sustained will prevent him from doing this immediately.

G1
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32302No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2018Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
982.jpg
[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: William Eve "
International RL is no incentive to anyone with ambition because it's been reduced to a dead duck, end-of-season afterthought.'"

Absolutely and if anyone thinks you're simply trolling they should look for the quotes today from Shane Richardson, Souths CEO who knows a thing or two about international rugby league.

He doesn't even think the NRL will be able to lure him back such is the nature of Union's international profile and such is the pitiful nature of Rugby League's international commitment, especially from the Aussies.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11658
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35138.jpg
Fat people are harder to kidnap.:35138.jpg



RL is Betamax while RU is VHS. The former being a far superior product to the latter and yet for some inexplicable reason the British public prefer the bulkier, slower more cumbersome product.

216 posts in 15 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
216 posts in 15 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.22998046875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10m
2025 Season tickets
AgbriggAmble
174
22m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2503
25m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
30m
Planning for next season
leyther
167
42m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
59m
New Players
BigTime
102
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
Recent
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
1m
Jerrys Last Ever Game
Trojan Horse
4
2m
Is Eamon OCarroll off Yes New Coach Thread
Rafa9
132
2m
New Players
BigTime
102
2m
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
2m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
Ex-Swarcliff
223
2m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
23
3m
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
4m
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Spookisback
6
TODAY
Paladin Sports
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
115
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
32
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
566
England's Women Demolish The W..
522
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
821
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
629
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
915
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1409
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1641
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1912
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1493
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1759
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2128
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1693
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1779
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1908
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2091
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 1,337 80,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10m
2025 Season tickets
AgbriggAmble
174
22m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2503
25m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
30m
Planning for next season
leyther
167
42m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
59m
New Players
BigTime
102
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
Recent
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
1m
Jerrys Last Ever Game
Trojan Horse
4
2m
Is Eamon OCarroll off Yes New Coach Thread
Rafa9
132
2m
New Players
BigTime
102
2m
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
2m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
Ex-Swarcliff
223
2m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
23
3m
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
4m
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Spookisback
6
TODAY
Paladin Sports
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
115
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
32
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
566
England's Women Demolish The W..
522
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
821
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
629
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
915
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1409
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1641
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1912
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1493
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1759
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2128
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1693
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1779
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1908
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2091


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!