Well, I'm sure the lass from the ticket office is out signing up players as we speak.

He did actually make more than an enquiry, when Warrington tried to pull out of the deal they already had with Cas. However, common sense obviously got the better of Warrington when they realised exactly what they were getting.

If Larne Patrick is available though, Christ all mighty that would be unforgivable not to be trying on that one.

Gotcha why did Warrington try to pull out of the deal?
I thought it was Clark himself who said he would rather stay at Cas and Cas themselves tried to buy him out of the deal.

No Warrington were the ones who tried to come out of it, due to finances, and that came from someone high enough up at Cas. I guess seeing the real deal as it was this season, made them realise that they were actually getting some value.

I'll say it again, if you don't like the product vote with your wallet. It's the only way to convince a sports club that anything needs to change.

If enough people keep paying over money regardless of whether they're happy with what they are getting in return, where's the incentive to change anything from GH's perspective?

He was too late by then though

Cheers Gotcha.
Investing in Quality?
Surely not.

Haha! Brilliant! Got to feel sorry for the people in the ticket office - polite (though over-keen) calls to prior commited season-ticket holders offering them a personal service and a call they don't even have to pay for to sign up there and then.

Instead, they get a tirade about stagnation and a lack of foresight coming from the top down and that this is why they are yet to renew; the deal being put forward does not match the product you demand as a buyer. The fact they said they have had several responses like that must make it unfortunate for them; on a hiding to nothing.

Get B McD and GH making some calls, so punters can 'have it out' directly with those more in a position to do something about it. Won't happen, but would be great if it did.

I wouldn't necessarily say it was a case of fans 'taking it out' on ticket office staff.

At the end of the day, this is what a sales and marketing process is. The sales staff are the ones with direct contact with the customer base and, hopefully, they will feedback to the business what that customer base is telling them. What the business choose to do with that feedback is up to them but, if the business is being run well, that feedback will form the basis of future decision making.

At the moment, what the club is offering isn't appealing to large sections of the customer base, and it is important that the club knows this.

Only a rumour via Rhinos faithful on twitter but apparently if the Pies get Patrick then we are in for Mossop!

Yeah, I understand this. Like any business I guess though, it is those on the front line who have to handle the dissatisfaction of the decisions made (or not) at the top.

I get it from members of the public a lot in one of my jobs, so I have some empathy for them. But I also know / understand as a buyer you are well within your rights and should explain why you aren't buying the product on offer; as you say it is the only way the product will be reviewed to make it more attractive to buyers going forward.

Why would them getting Patrick make a difference though? Mossop isn't due to come back anyway, and has no tie to Wigan.

Personally would rather have Patrick anyway.

At the risk of being called a "believist", t or any number of other derogatory terms isn't the essence of being a fan that you support your club through thick & thin.
Witholding your support & money is it seems to me the start of a downward spiral that can end up with the club you allegedly support being relegated or going out of business.
Is that what people on here really want?

We have many fans on this very board, who do not pay to go watch the team, even though the same people try and argue everything is good.

The thing is though, even when we had our times of winning nothing, and some poor coaches also, we still at least showed ambition and the desire to improve, even if mistakes were made. The difference this time, is that the club is taking the fans for granted and acting with a degree of arrogance, even though the truth is every man and his dog with half a brain can see that as we stand, we regress simple as that.

If the game was free to watch, then your argument would be very accurate. But because we do pay, and a lot of money, the argument is completely none understandable. I was also a fan of my wifes previous car, but I got sick of chucking money at it to repair, are you saying I still should have kept it regardless?

You forgot "single celled organism"

I renewed my season ticket in August, ergo i'm a single celled organism. The fact I go to 90% of home games regardless, so will be saving a small wedge over the course of the year doesn't matter. No, I renewed a season ticket to watch the most successful club of the last decade, so i'm a div.

I didn't have a season ticket back in the glorious 80s, when our sole trophy win was the Yorkshire Cup, but like some on here I travelled home & away most weeks. I must've been completely brain dead back then