And you have no concept of supporting a team. Just because you don't put your hard earned in, and waste your time, doesn't mean the rest of us can't expect to get something for what we are putting in. There wouldn't be a team without supporters going.

Mac has got it seriousley wrong on the last two games , he is accountable , if We win next week and still finish in the top two great If we lose next week and do not make the top two and then do not make the grand final then he has a major problem . Either way it has been his choice and he will be judged this season on whether or not we win silverware

It was a game against London not a SOO match. It wouldn't have a massive effect on a players body. Probably more like a training session than a Super League game.

IF the Rhinos win next weekend at Wembley then imo the recent SL defeats against both Bradford before our semi final and in the penultimate game before Wembley against London won't seem half as bad as it does now as there is some reward gained by winning one of the only 2 worthwhile trophies on offer

However IF we lose next week and IF these losses cost us a top 4 finish, then the imo the pressure is firmly on Brian Mac should we not progress to the GF

Everyone knows that the knives are sharpened for him

Just on that. He gambled and put out a weak squad. He made mistakes with his subs. But at the end of the day we were 22 points up against the worst team in super league history. The players have to take responsibility for this one.

For what it's worth, as a London fan, I agree entirely. Leeds' defence in that last quarter was non-existent - and trust me, as a Broncos fan I know a bit about non-existent defence!

Not sure what you're on about here to be honest pal

No - obviously once we win the CC final we can turn focus to the Grand Final. Today however was an irrelevancy in the grand scheme of things.

If today's result means leeds finish 4th instead of 2nd and end up playing wigan away instead of for example warrington at home, will you think it's irrelevant then?

If we ignore the fact of having depleted teams, leeds have been in a position to win both games, against relegated teams........one of whom hasn't won a game all season and have blown it.

Is it too much to ask that some professionalism is shown and results are seen out at a crucial time in deciding playoff spots? This isn't april. It's buisness end.

Theres still one more game in the cup to go, so still time.

I doubt any pro club would do 80 minutes of full contact training. They usually only do full contact pre-season.

But then last week was far and away from a training session. As I said the impacts these guys are taking are massive and continuous. It's not surprising it takes them a week to recover to a position to be able to play to a high standard again.

Whilst other issues such as youth production and reserves comps etc all benefit the quality of the NRL, another reason is that they play fewer games. Even with 3 SOO games the NRL top teams are playing 27 games per year. SL's top teams are playing around 34.
Over 5 years our top players have played the equivalent of an extra season.

You're assuming they will go five years without injury in a collision sport.

There's also the assumption that playing a game of rugby is equal regardless. Whether it's the style of play, or the individual players, Leeds have made ~600 tackles and ~1000 metres more than Saints and Wigan so far this season - that's the equivalent workload to 2 extra games in itself.

So I'd say the assumptions balance (broadly speaking)