Is there any clear proof of what has been allegedly said ??

If the ref didnt hear anything...was anything actually said ??

A bit like the tree faling in the forest if no one was around to hear it did it make a noise. ???

The only real concrete proof would be if it was picked up on Childs' microphone, any other 'proof' is somewhat subjective.

If the RFL do find against Hardaker then as far as I can see that's the material damage required for a more lucrative case of libel against those who brought accusations that, if they got to court, would be laughed out of it in an instant. In which case Odem and a few others from the Virtual Terrace ought to be checking their pockets.

is there any point discussing it as he plays for leeds and will get off with a warning and the obligatory £300 fine

Course I needs talking about! For the keyboard warriors its like a T-bone steak to a pitbull. If Zak has done it then he needs to be dealt with. But the BS reaction of the usual suspects has little to do with the real issues. It pretty obvious what the motivation is.

Yes. Unless you think sexism doesn't exist and hasn't in the past.

My point is not about the actual word, my point is why would sexist language be acceptable if homophobic isn't. If we think use of the word "woman" to belittle/take the mick out of someone for being soft is acceptable why aren't other words that are used for the same reason?

There's an awful lot of foul and abusive language used on the pitch, especially in tight games with incidents. I've heard plenty and been told about plenty of such language from players.

If we (as a sport) are going to punish Hardaker then we also have to punish every incident of what could be described as "discriminatory" language and at the moment that isn't happening.
For instance, James Graham was regularly insulted for being ginger (by opposition players).
Sean Long was called a . Etc
I'm sure there's plenty of other examples, including some I know were heard by match officials.

They haven't been punished.
If we are cleaning up the language on the pitch then fine, I think we'll struggle a bit to enforce it entirely but as long as it's a consistent approach then great.

Not with you, no!

If there's a case to answer then let the RFL investigate it and we should accept whatever punishment they deem fit. The opinions of mentalists from other clubs with a history of vile postings about our players are irrelevant.

Well, it's now made national news. Just been mentioned on BBC's TV breakfast programme.

The pressure will be on the RFL to issue a serious punishment now

Has he been found quilty yet ???

It's a realistic assessment of the 1.5% as claimed by
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One. Point. Five. Percent. A very noisy 1.5% I'll grant you, aided and abetted in their publicity by those strange individuals who seem a tad overly eager to take offence on behalf everyone.

Tell me Codhead, as a Hull lad, would you really have a hissy fit at being called a faggot, or a Pom, or a Limey etc etc, or would you simply respond with a derogatory comment of your own?

So far all these allegations are unproven - can we at least wait until Zak admits that he has said something wrong or there is concrete evidence to prove so before we hang the lad.

Whatever happened to innocent until [sizeproven [/sizeguilty?

I saw it on BBC news in gym this morning.

Nice to see BBC jumping in on a potential none story.

Hmmm. A shame the BBC often can't be bothered to even report the results of games but are happy to report this.

Leeds fans trying to tell themselves he didn't do anything, he plays for my Leeds. He's a good boy.