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Quote: Worlds Apart "I'd guess we'll put out

How could mighty Kirke be omitted after charging through Amor?

Interesting, considering a 4 prop selection of Peacock, Leuluai, Kirke and Singleton. I wouldn't mind seeing Bailey as the back row option over Clarkson.

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Quote: William Eve "Or even Friday 20th June.

Or even Saturday 21st June.

Kick off is 11pm UK time for that game but I'm sure you can't wait for the utterly meaningless Bradford V Hull KR on Sky instead. I'll be instead watching Switzerland V France along with the global millions around the world.

Kick off is 11pm UK time for that game but I'm sure you can't wait for the utterly meaningless Catalans V Hull on Sky instead. I'll be instead watching Argentina and Messi along with the global millions around the world.

Would that be the 23rd June or the 22nd? Take a deep breath before you commit to an answer.

That'll be 8pm UK time though there's also Belgium V Russia at 5pm UK time. Sky's mouthwatering fixture to be broadcast that Sunday has yet to be decided. Given their appalling recent selection form guide, it'll probably be London away at Huddersfield
Isn't it amazing that some people are only too willing to show just what a sad sack they are! I wonder if our friend here spends his evenings listening to One Direction too, like the 'millions around the world'? icon_lol.gif

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Prop Ryan Bailey, winger Ben Jones-Bishop and back rower Stevie Ward have all been added to the squad that defeated St Helens last Saturday for this Friday's clash with Wigan at Headingley Carnegie.
Bailey was eighteenth man in the Cup game but with Rob Burrow ruled out following his broken collar bone, he could be in contention to return for his 299th game for the Rhinos.

Ward has been out since suffering a leg injury in the win over Bradford on Easter Thursday but is in contention to return against the Warriors whilst Jones-Bishop missed out on the win over Saints last week but has been a regular in recent weeks.

The 19 man squad in full is

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Wigan Warriors have today named their 19 man squad to face Leeds Rhinos at Headingley-Carnegie on Friday night in the First Utility Super League, 8pm kick off.

The Warriors welcome back Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, Michael McIlorum and Skipper Sean O'Loughlin (pictured) who were all rested for the Cup game against Hunslet while Prop Gil Dudson is back in the squad after serving a one game suspension.

The players to miss out through injury are Iain Thornley, Ben Flower, Eddy Pettybourne and Josh Charnley.

Wigan 19 Man Squad (in alphabetical order)

25 John Bateman, 1 Matty Bowen, 32 Joe Burgess, 24 Tony Clubb, 17 Dom Crosby, 16 Gil Dudson, 12 Liam Farrell, 5 Anthony Gelling, 3 Darrell Goulding, 6 Blake Green, 14 Jack Hughes, 28 Jordan James, 9 Michael McIlorum, 13 Sean O'Loughlin, 19 Sam Powell, 23 Dan Sarginson, 7 Matty Smith, 8 Scott Taylor, 27 George Williams


Read more at www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... gJEkiSD.99
Wigan Warriors have today named their 19 man squad to face Leeds Rhinos at Headingley-Carnegie on Friday night in the First Utility Super League, 8pm kick off.

The Warriors welcome back Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, Michael McIlorum and Skipper Sean O'Loughlin (pictured) who were all rested for the Cup game against Hunslet while Prop Gil Dudson is back in the squad after serving a one game suspension.

The players to miss out through injury are Iain Thornley, Ben Flower, Eddy Pettybourne and Josh Charnley.

Wigan 19 Man Squad (in alphabetical order)

25 John Bateman, 1 Matty Bowen, 32 Joe Burgess, 24 Tony Clubb, 17 Dom Crosby, 16 Gil Dudson, 12 Liam Farrell, 5 Anthony Gelling, 3 Darrell Goulding, 6 Blake Green, 14 Jack Hughes, 28 Jordan James, 9 Michael McIlorum, 13 Sean O'Loughlin, 19 Sam Powell, 23 Dan Sarginson, 7 Matty Smith, 8 Scott Taylor, 27 George Williams


Read more at www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... gJEkiSD.99


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I have a sneaky feeling hardaker will go to 6 and BJB to 1.

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Looking forward to this one, no idea which way it will go but should be a good game

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Quote: rhinos21 "I have a sneaky feeling hardaker will go to 6 and BJB to 1.'"


I have a sneaky feeling that you just watched SL Backchat... icon_wink.gif

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Should be a good battle in the second row. Ablett is getting into really good form and Wigan have a good pair in Farrell and Bateman. Big game (and few weeks) for Achurch to see how he goes against the tougher opposition.

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Quote: DHM "I have a sneaky feeling that you just watched SL Backchat...
*Some* of us were saying this before Backchat was recorded...

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Quote: DHM "I have a sneaky feeling that you just watched SL Backchat...
Nope i dont have sky.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Should be a good battle in the second row. Ablett is getting into really good form and Wigan have a good pair in Farrell and Bateman. Big game (and few weeks) for Achurch to see how he goes against the tougher opposition.'"



How do you determine form? serious question.

He has had a really good season, really good. He was fantastic against Saint Helens. But he was really dissapointing against Salford (where he looked very tired and beaten), and against the Bulls he was nothing close to what he has produced this year.

Personally, I think for the season so far, he is possibly our player of year so far. But two out of the last three games, he has being nothing close to it (so interested in the comment of getting into good form). I feel he needs a rest badly or his form his going to suffer. Although I do accept, I would rather that not against Wigan.

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Unbelievably I never thought I would say this but I agree completely with Gotcha regarding Achurch (we seem to differ in opinion most of the time) and that the guy seems shattered. If the rhinos are rotating the backline, halves and rotating the props then I don't see why should not do the same with the second row positions. Also would like to see Sutcliffe stay at LF from the bench. The team I would like to see:
BJB
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
McGuire
Hardaker
Leuluai
Sinfield
Peacock
Ablett
Delaney
Bailey
Subs Kirke, Clarkson, Sutcliffe and singleton.
But what I expect is BJB and on recent games Bailey to be dropped(still on the naughty step I guess). With Sutcliffe in the halves and Sinfield go hooker. Anyway hope it is a cracker.

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Quote: Gotcha "How do you determine form? serious question.

He has had a really good season, really good. He was fantastic against Saint Helens. But he was really dissapointing against Salford (where he looked very tired and beaten), and against the Bulls he was nothing close to what he has produced this year.

Personally, I think for the season so far, he is possibly our player of year so far. But two out of the last three games, he has being nothing close to it (so interested in the comment of getting into good form). I feel he needs a rest badly or his form his going to suffer. Although I do accept, I would rather that not against Wigan.'"


As in the usual way anyone determines form, based upon recent games.

Granted actually the Salford game he wasn't at his best but as I mentioned on the post match thread, due to the short turnaround I don't hold much weight to performances (team or individual) in the Easter Monday games, it's often not great but just a case of getting through.

Bradford he went for a season best (by some distance) 157 yards so can't agree with you on that. In fact I'd say his first few games of the year I was slightly disappointed. Averaged less than 11 carries per game for the opening 5 games with only a 67 yard per game average. Not only was he very good vs Saints on Saturday but had another good showing against them in the league game a few weeks back.

IMO.

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Quote: sparkles "Unbelievably I never thought I would say this but I agree completely with Gotcha regarding Achurch (we seem to differ in opinion most of the time) and that the guy seems shattered. If the rhinos are rotating the backline, halves and rotating the props then I don't see why should not do the same with the second row positions. Also would like to see Sutcliffe stay at LF from the bench. The team I would like to see
Don't think you are agreeing with him to be honest. I believe his comments were aimed at ablett being knackered.
I can have some sympathy for this view as at Salford he did look knackered. But last week looked strong again having a cracking year. Could probably do with a break at some point but as gotcha says Wigan isn't the game to rest him

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Ablett's a very good centre. But I can't shake the belief that we're seeing what happens when he gets to play in the back row consistently for a long period of time. I have no scientific evidence for this. Just a feeling.

Either way, Ablett's a terrific player, and very under rated in my opinion.

I'm still not entirely sold on Achurch, but he looks a lot better this season. He's a big unit, and has plenty of speed for his size, power, and can offload. I get the impression that the raw materials are there and that the key is getting him to focus on doing the little nitty gritty things well. Progress encouraging, jury out, from what I've seen.

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