| FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > St Helens and refs |
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 534 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2016 | Apr 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: huddersfield rhino "Just watched the Fartown game and I cannot believe the quality or lack of it from the refs. St Helens got every call going today, sending off 50/50 call. But then the drop goal it was clear on TV it was a drop, if the ref had doubt he goes to the square in the air. He did not and Fartown robbed or you could say cheated, the question is what will the RFL do!!!
But this is not the occasion strange things have happened, two weeks ago the incident at the wakefield game, with the alleged influence of the directors of refs, encouraging the ref to penalise Trinity. Last week every call went to ST Helens again, a vital try scored when many refs would have chalked it off for interference. Guess who was the video ref !!
It is time the RFL acted for the good of the game, every ref has bad days but it seems strange at the moment they all benefit St Helens. Who is in charge of refs. Mr Ganson who is know throughout the game as a St Helens support.
Please will something be done for the good of the game'"
The only call the ref may have got wrong was the drop goal by Brough ............ I've watched it several times on tv, and I have no idea whether it was wide of the post or not. It was a judgement call, and maybe the on field ref should have gone to the video ref, but even then I don't think a definitive answer would have been possible.
As for Ganson being a Saints fan, I've spoken to him on a number of occasions, and can assure you that he's never shown any signs of favouritism towards Saints; in fact in one conversation, shortly after the 2009 Grand Final, he was openly pro-Leeds. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 3813 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Mar 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Juan Cornetto " If the ball went exactly over one post then IMO it should be no goal as had the post been higher it would have bounced back.'"
In your opinion but not in the rules of the game. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 662 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2021 | Mar 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
56536_1332273309.jpg
[color=#4000FF:3azhjk0y]RHINOS TILL I DIE[/color:3azhjk0y]
[color=#0000FF:3azhjk0y]“Tough times come and go, tough people last forever" [/color:3azhjk0y]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_56536.jpg |
|
| Quote: nickcat0 "The only call the ref may have got wrong was the drop goal by Brough ............ I've watched it several times on tv, and I have no idea whether it was wide of the post or not. It was a judgement call, and maybe the on field ref should have gone to the video ref, but even then I don't think a definitive answer would have been possible.
As for Ganson being a Saints fan, I've spoken to him on a number of occasions, and can assure you that he's never shown any signs of favouritism towards Saints; in fact in one conversation, shortly after the 2009 Grand Final, he was openly pro-Leeds.'"
Ganson is a Saints fan, I've seen him wearing a Saints top at a cup semi a few years back. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 410 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2014 | Apr 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
The Future is bright, the future is white with a red 'V': |
|
| Quote: craigizzard "In your opinion but not in the rules of the game.'"
er yes in the rules of the game - the post is considered to go up infinately. Therefore if the ball went over the top of the line of the post it would be deemed as a miss.
People really should read the rule book... |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 807 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2014 | 11 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2019 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Fieldheadrhino "Ganson is a Saints fan, I've seen him wearing a Saints top at a cup semi a few years back.'"
Ganson was obviously a big saints fan growing up (its his town) and still is a fan, however if anything we get the rough end because of this as he knows everyone is watching out for it. His son Josh plays for England and Saints U16 |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 662 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2021 | Mar 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
56536_1332273309.jpg
[color=#4000FF:3azhjk0y]RHINOS TILL I DIE[/color:3azhjk0y]
[color=#0000FF:3azhjk0y]“Tough times come and go, tough people last forever" [/color:3azhjk0y]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_56536.jpg |
|
| Quote: LFC Saint "Ganson was obviously a big saints fan growing up (its his town) and still is a fan, however if anything we get the rough end because of this as he knows everyone is watching out for it. His son Josh plays for England and Saints U16'"
I would not say you got the rough end of decisions or the smooth end either. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 534 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2016 | Apr 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: LFC Saint ".......... however if anything we get the rough end because of this as he knows everyone is watching out for it..........'"
As evidenced by him handing the 2009 Grand Final to Leeds with his decision, leading upto the match changing try. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 815 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2012 | 12 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
68599_1349865432.jpg
[color=#FF0000:27p4jig2]COYS[/color:27p4jig2]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68599.jpg |
|
| Quote: huddersfield rhino "Just watched the Fartown game and I cannot believe the quality or lack of it from the refs. St Helens got every call going today, sending off 50/50 call. '"
How on gods earth is the sending off a 50/50 call lol!!!  |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 17145 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
755_1290430740.jpg
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg |
|
| Quote: LFC Saint "They gave the penalty to Walsh for Mcgilvray lying on too long. Ref spoke to the linesman who says Jermaine would not get off Walsh to allow him play the ball as it was a half break and Saints where on the front foot. Correct decision.'"
Wrong. Bentham didn't blow until Walsh pushed Jermaine. he then didn't know what to do, so consulted the linesman. it's not up to the linesman to rule whether he takes too long to get off. Even if he had, which he didn't, Walsh does not have licence to react like that. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 16170 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
40218_1286737075.jpg
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg |
|
| Quote: tigertot "Wrong. Bentham didn't blow until Walsh pushed Jermaine. he then didn't know what to do, so consulted the linesman. it's not up to the linesman to rule whether he takes too long to get off. Even if he had, which he didn't, Walsh does not have licence to react like that.'"
It's as much up to the touch judge as the referee as all three consult numerous times a game via their mics on various issues. All this was cleared up in an SLTV programme with the controller of referees straight after Agar made his daft statement about Ganson (the referees' coach) going into the referees' room at halftime (to, er, coach). |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 22777 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2006 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2020 | Feb 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
//www.pngnrlbid.com
[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
|
| Quote: steve "er yes in the rules of the game - the post is considered to go up infinately. Therefore if the ball went over the top of the line of the post it would be deemed as a miss.
People really should read the rule book...'"
That refers to the ball not going too high, not that the ref/toughjudge/VR needs to speculate on the bounce of an oblique spheriod moving at indeterminate speed, with an indeterminate rotation, with an unclear trajecotry off a cylindrical column with indeterminate rigidity. Because that would be impossible. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 32302 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2018 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
982.jpg
[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg |
|
| Saw Mr Bentham at the gym at lunchtime. He was certain it missed from his angle and it never entered his head for one second to use the video ref.
He will be avoiding twitter for a few weeks though.
 |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Owner | 5852 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2004 | 21 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
Ahh Tesco
Building St Helens & Warrington's future
Destroying Wigans past
"Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower": |
|
| Quote: G1 "Saw Mr Bentham at the gym at lunchtime. He was certain it missed from his angle and it never entered his head for one second to use the video ref.
He will be avoiding twitter for a few weeks though.
![]()
Ian Smith was on GMR phone in on Sunday night and said if Bentham would have gone to the video ref he'd have dissalowed it also
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 17230 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
3043_1291817917.jpg
#frostiesbitches We know who you are.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3043.jpg |
|
| Quote: Rommel "Ian Smith was on GMR phone in on Sunday night and said if Bentham would have gone to the video ref he'd have dissalowed it also
![]()
How is it that everyone at that ground yesterday, including all the players and coaches, thought it was a drop goal, but the officials somehow think differently?
If Smith said that then he is a bigger idiot than I thought. From one angle it is touch and go on the video, but not conclusive either way. The only thing conclusive from looking towards the posts, is that all the players thought it was through. From the other angle, behind the posts it is a clear drop goal. At the very worst that would be benefit of doubt with a video official.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 8893 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2006 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
25511_1478008518.jpg
"Well, I think in Rugby League if you head butt someone there's normally some repercusions":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25511.jpg |
|
| Quote: steve "er yes in the rules of the game - the post is considered to go up infinately. Therefore if the ball went over the top of the line of the post it would be deemed as a miss.
People really should read the rule book...'"
Maybe you should because you've made most of that up. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
