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Quote: Biff Tannen "says on saints board JP made 247 metres and did 44 tackles.another great effort if true.think he did the full 80 too.'"
The stats from the game (at least those according to Opta) can be seen here : www.superleague.co.uk/report/9950 Quite how you can run that far for so little average gain (AG) is a continuing mystery this season.
Peacock had at least one breather during the game - the one I recall lasted for all of about five minutes as McDermott seemingly doesn't trust his first choice available squad (bar Moon and Aiton) to be able to cope for any longer than that without him when facing the gutsy St Helen's reserve side sprinkled with a few ringers.
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Quote: Biff Tannen "says on saints board JP made 247 metres and did 44 tackles.another great effort if true.think he did the full 80 too.'"
The stats from the game (at least those according to Opta) can be seen here : www.superleague.co.uk/report/9950 Quite how you can run that far for so little average gain (AG) is a continuing mystery this season.
Peacock had at least one breather during the game - the one I recall lasted for all of about five minutes as McDermott seemingly doesn't trust his first choice available squad (bar Moon and Aiton) to be able to cope for any longer than that without him when facing the gutsy St Helen's reserve side sprinkled with a few ringers.
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| Quote: craigizzard " it's a mystery why he didn't take it up more '" I can help you with that.
His carries were very strong. Just a shame there were only 4 of them. IIRC one was from a drop out so he only made himself available to take the ball in 3 times. He just edged out BJB in terms of fewest carries.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "says on saints board JP made 247 metres and did 44 tackles.another great effort if true.think he did the full 80 too.'"
well whoopdy f*cking doo
Peacock would play on for 3 hours if he was allowed to.
Mcdermott needs to put his foot down and spare him.
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| Quote: G1 "I can help you with that.
His carries were very strong. Just a shame there were only 4 of them. IIRC one was from a drop out so he only made himself available to take the ball in 3 times. He just edged out BJB in terms of fewest carries.'"
That's a joke.
With Kirke's 1 or 2 carries a game, the unused sub, singeltons 1 min 30 second cameos at the end of some games and peacock and leuluai's mammoth stints leeds are practically playing every game with just 13 players.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "well whoopdy f*cking doo
Peacock would play on for 3 hours if he was allowed to.
Mcdermott needs to put his foot down and spare him.'"
He did.
He missed the London game and had 2 weeks rest before the saints game.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "He did.
He missed the London game and had 2 weeks rest before the saints game.'"
True, Peacock had only played 30 mins of rugby in the previous 21 days.
So far his big efforts have come against Wire, Hudds and Saints, 3 of the 4 other title contenders. I fully expect something similar when we play Wigan too. Which I think is fine, IF we start seeing him doing those sort of full games and efforts against the lower teams then it's an issue.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "True, Peacock had only played 30 mins of rugby in the previous 21 days.
So far his big efforts have come against Wire, Hudds and Saints, 3 of the 4 other title contenders. I fully expect something similar when we play Wigan too. Which I think is fine, IF we start seeing him doing those sort of full games and efforts against the lower teams then it's an issue.'"
But come the play-offs all the remaining teams will be title contenders, can we expect him to be putting full stints in week after week at the seasons end?
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| Quote: Fat Boy "But come the play-offs all the remaining teams will be title contenders, can we expect him to be putting full stints in week after week at the seasons end?'"
If we get a top 4 spot then we have the potential of a week off if we win the first.....plus it's Peacock so I would expect him to pull it off. By that point too their is no thinking about 2/3/4 months down the line, it's all or nothing. And I don't think playing 20 mins less vs Saints in March would effect what he did in Sept/Oct.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "True, Peacock had only played 30 mins of rugby in the previous 21 days.
So far his big efforts have come against Wire, Hudds and Saints, 3 of the 4 other title contenders. I fully expect something similar when we play Wigan too. Which I think is fine, IF we start seeing him doing those sort of full games and efforts against the lower teams then it's an issue.'"
I heard part of an interview with radio Leeds on the way home last week, i can't remember which day, and Mac was saying he was looking at keeping his squad fresh throughout the year and London was a targeted game for resting JP.He said managing the likes of JP and Kylie, who of course are getting on in years, was of huge importance for the back end of the year.And whenever he felt he could rest players he will.
It was good to hear.I dont have a problem at all with them both doing big minutes in the games against the top sides as long as they are getting the odd break here and there to recharge.
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| Quote: Fat Boy "But come the play-offs all the remaining teams will be title contenders, can we expect him to be putting full stints in week after week at the seasons end?'"
I think he can. Nothing amazes me with this guy anymore, he is a true machine with awesome levels of fitness, even at his advancing years of age.The International retirement really has given him a new lease of life.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "I heard part of an interview with radio Leeds on the way home last week, i can't remember which day, and Mac was saying he was looking at keeping his squad fresh throughout the year and London was a targeted game for resting JP.He said managing the likes of JP and Kylie, who of course are getting on in years, was of huge importance for the back end of the year.And whenever he felt he could rest players he will.
It was good to hear.I dont have a problem at all with them both doing big minutes in the games against the top sides as long as they are getting the odd break here and there to recharge.'"
I am a critic of McDermott, but I am happy he has learnt from last season, and is doing exactly what some of us said he should be doing last season. I heard that interview and I have the same opinion as you.
Kylie for me was far and away our best man on Friday, and I am guessing here, but I reckon he is planned to be rested the next match, and that stint on Friday was knowing this.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Quote: Biff Tannen "But come the play-offs all the remaining teams will be title contenders, can we expect him to be putting full stints in week after week at the seasons end?'"
I think he can. Nothing amazes me with this guy anymore, he is a true machine with awesome levels of fitness, even at his advancing years of age.The International retirement really has given him a new lease of life.'"
And what happens if he gets injured the week before the play-offs begin? The likes of Singleton and Achurch need the experience of the bigger games to get them ready for the intensity of play-off rugby.
Losing Peacock to injury is always going to have a massive impact, as there is no 2nd Peacock so cannot be replaced, however, by only really trusting the likes of Singelton and Achurch against the complete gash of superleague, we're not maximising their potential, so when Peacock does eventualy succumb to injury or retirement, Singleton and Achurch could still be underdone.
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| Quote: Superted "And what happens if he gets injured the week before the play-offs begin? The likes of Singleton and Achurch need the experience of the bigger games to get them ready for the intensity of play-off rugby.
Losing Peacock to injury is always going to have a massive impact, as there is no 2nd Peacock so cannot be replaced, however, by only really trusting the likes of Singelton and Achurch against the complete gash of superleague, we're not maximising their potential, so when Peacock does eventualy succumb to injury or retirement, Singleton and Achurch could still be underdone.'"
I agree with you.These players need as much game time and exposure to intense games as we can afford to give them.
That said, i think i have seen enough of the back up squad as a whole to safely say, IMO, our chances of silverware are very,very low without JP.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "
I agree with you.These players need as much game time and exposure to intense games as we can afford to give them.
That said, i think i have seen enough of the back up squad as a whole to safely say, IMO, our chances of silverware are very,very low without JP.'"
That unfortunately is very true. So, we need to be doing everything possible to mitigate against his eventual departure.
Having said that, with the general slipping of standards of Superleague, I think we prepare correctly for his departure, we wont be that far away.
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| Quote: Superted "And what happens if he gets injured the week before the play-offs begin? The likes of Singleton and Achurch need the experience of the bigger games to get them ready for the intensity of play-off rugby.
Losing Peacock to injury is always going to have a massive impact, as there is no 2nd Peacock so cannot be replaced, however, by only really trusting the likes of Singelton and Achurch against the complete gash of superleague, we're not maximising their potential, so when Peacock does eventualy succumb to injury or retirement, Singleton and Achurch could still be underdone.'"
I've said the same for the last couple of seasons not just about JP either I think the Coach got it bang on re-rotation against London but against the Giants and ST's his subs in particular were bizarre and imo put too much workload on our pack whilst after the Broncos game ignored that Ward isn't a LC.
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