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Thanks for backing me up.

I've always said Ryan Hall was rubbish.....

Your the only one then.

His poor tackling and handling errors are terrible Gotcha

Pfft rubbish

Stats like these never tell the full story. The only stats that tell the full story are records ie in 2012
We
Won x amount of games

Let's be honest here for me a winger you don't expect to make 20/30 tackles a game you expect them to score tries

Hall has certainly done that over the years so no probs from me

No you don't. Unless your side is poor across the park, then your winger will probably be making more tackles. However, and this is the bit Ferdy, is missing, is that when your winger is called upon to make a tackle that it is successful.

Hall, on a continuous basis, is missing one in every three tackles he attempts. That is a poor success rate, whether winger or any other position. And that is the only point being made. In comparison to all the wingers in super league, he has the poorest return on effective tackles. That is not subjective, it is there in black and white.

Ferdy had I said Ryan Hall was a poor winger on it's own, then you would be correct to comment that the stats don't tell the full story. I didn't I said defensively, stats wise, he was the worst winger, and when you look at that over a long period it doesn't change. There is nothing exceptional skewing the figures, it is consistent.

So you'd drop Hall then for his defensive frailties?

If the stats could be trusted then you probably would have a point, but it's how these are gathered I do not trust. I have seen people credited with the missed tackle of others. If the two outside defenders don't do there job leave the winger isolated trying to defend an overlap and "misses" a tackle which in all honesty the issues have been created in field. The gathering of the stats is subject to error and subjectivness which is why I don't see how you can rely just on stats. Don't think hall is the best defender but there are a few I would prefer him to in defence

Due to the fact that some of you Rhinos fans clearly don't appreciate Ryan Hall's abilities I am now going to take this matter up in the morning on your behalf with Mr Hetherington

I will be requesting that your club deem it necessary to immediately release him from his present contract and transfer him to the mighty Saints

Make no wonder you lot are called Whinos

"There are three types of lies

Lies, damm Lies & statistics"

Benjamin Disraeli

I forgot to add that Ryan also looks 3 stone over weight

Looks like you reply to posts before you read all the previous ones