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"It weren't pretty, but it didn't have to be. We just had to win."

Familiar?

I thought Wilkin had a real Jekyll and Hyde performance. When Saints had the ball he had a very good game. When we had it he was dreadful.

I also think the missed tackle stats overall are probably not a fair indication of the quality of the defence. They're more an indication of the at times outrageously frenetic tempo of the game and, as someone said above, of how good the scrambling defence was. If the score had been 25-24 with 4 tries apiece it would have better reflected the missed tackles. Only the desperation and commitment of the defences prevented that sort of scoreline.

I still think both teams played pretty well for the most part. When people depend at that intensity for that period of time there will always be misses.

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Quote: El Diablo " I also think the missed tackle stats overall are probably not a fair indication of the quality of the defence. They're more an indication of the at times outrageously frenetic tempo of the game and, as someone said above, of how good the scrambling defence was. If the score had been 25-24 with 4 tries apiece it would have better reflected the missed tackles. Only the desperation and commitment of the defences prevented that sort of scoreline. '"



It could be that. Then again it could be down to poor execution from both sides. Certainly that was the way Saints read it after the game, and I would hope Leeds would do the same.

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Quote: Gotcha "It could be that. Then again it could be down to poor execution from both sides. Certainly that was the way Saints read it after the game, and I would hope Leeds would do the same.'"


Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be keen to get the number down this week - they'll have to I think. But I do think you have to read stats like that in the context of the game. And we'll also need to see more of that desperation and commitment in last-ditch cover defence at Wigan if we're going to go through. That's play-off rugby.

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For Wigan i think we'll go with..
Hardaker
Hall
Moon
Watkins
Bjb
Mcguire
Burrow
JP
Sinfield
Kylie
Jjb/Clarkson
Ablett
Singleton

Kirke
Achurch
Bailey
Sutcliffe

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Quote: rhinoms "For Wigan i think we'll go with..
Hardaker
Hall
Moon
Watkins
Bjb
Mcguire
Burrow
JP
Sinfield
Kylie
Jjb/Clarkson
Ablett
Singleton

Kirke
Achurch
Bailey
Sutcliffe'"


Wigan will come at us hard in the first 10-20 minutes. I'd like to have Bailey out there ahead of Singleton for that.

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first 20 are crucial.wigan try to blow you off the park.if that doesn't happen they struggle

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They may also be a bit rusty having had a week off (hopefully)
So I agree we need to get at them straight away as we might tire towards the end of the game.

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Quote: El Diablo "Wigan will come at us hard in the first 10-20 minutes. I'd like to have Bailey out there ahead of Singleton for that.'"

Bailey and Kirke are interchange props imo for this one Singleton can handle himself i've no doubts about that.

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Quote: tad rhino "first 20 are crucial.wigan try to blow you off the park.if that doesn't happen they struggle'"

Normally i'd agree with that but vs Huddersfield it was reversed, The soaked up all the early pressure in the opening 20ish then won convincingly in the end.

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true they did. makes you wonder what would have happened if giants had gone 10 up?

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Quote: George Agdgdgwngo® "Normally i'd agree with that but vs Huddersfield it was reversed, The soaked up all the early pressure in the opening 20ish then won convincingly in the end.'"


It was big game rainy weather 101 from wigan.

Completing sets, good kicks, mean defence, forcing numerous drop outs and building pressure at the other end. Never panicked or deviated from their gameplan even after going down, just kept grinding away.

Sinfield would have been proud.

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