I would expect us to line up something like this:

1. Zak Hardaker
2. Ben Jones Bishop
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
6. Liam Sutcliffe
7. Rob Burrow
8. Richard Moore
9. Paul McShane
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Chris Clarkson
12. Carl Ablett
13. Brad Singleton

14. Mitch Achurch
15. Ian Kirke
16. Jimmy Keinhorst
17. Alex Foster

Gotcha, when you're caught out being wrong, it's best just to admit it.

Point it out, and I'll gladly admit it. I have no worries to do that. But what I said is clear enough and backed up.

I think we do have a chance of doing something if the 'supporting cast' of forwards can step up. We know what Peacock can do and its good to have Ablett back in the forwards and Singleton is performing well. Its the group of Clarkson/Kirke/Achurch/Moore that need to suitably contribute. I'm not sure if Keinhorst & Foster will get much time but hopefully add decent cameos too.

Same 17 as last week i'm guessing to keep the consistency there, with the younger and out of position players being familiar with their roles and the players they are working with.

If we can hold them out the first 15/20 mins and be level or better at half time, Warrington may start to panic a little if they are 'expecting' to win this from the off. If we concede 2/3 early tries, I don't think we'll come from behind to win it.

Rugby League - a simple game made complicated by statisticians and geeks.

It certainly does become difficult to see the point when the trees become planks! Yes missed tackles are also errors, however they are usually recorded separately from the general handling errors. But as you mention it let us look at the missed tackle league

I think your maths is wrong. JJB I guess makes almost double the carries of the other forwards JP excepted. He must average around 16 carries per match with an average carry of about 6m. Given that the best carrier of the regular forwards (JP excepted) is Kirke (only in MperC) with 7.6m per carry with most being less than 7m per carry. So you need JJB's replacement to make around 95 metres per game on top of making 33 tackles per game, and be first in the kick chase as well....oh and lead the after match singing in the changing rooms.

A bit much to expect of a youngster and a bit beyond some of the benchmen. This could not be done by a couple of players making a couple of extra carries.

Haha, love it

Well good luck to the lads tonight! fingers crossed for a "good" game (read close instead of good)
Im stuck on a night shift so its radio leeds or whatever for me =/

leeds by 4........ gotta be optimistic! i`ll even stick a bet on that!

On phone at Warrington so excuse any spelling. Goog contingent from Leeds.

I think you are so far up yourself and patronising that you really do not know what you are debating.

Go back a step here at what I asked earlier and asked you to confirm. I said they would miss JJB carries and work rate but not his metres, and you said no meters. I further said that if a couple of players took another 3 carries each they would cover JJB metres, and you came out with the above to try and disprove this. Even going to the lengths of 0.6 metres.

Who is replacing JjB? Singleton? JJB makes about 70 to 90 metres a game. Your average bit part forward does 50 to 70 metres a game. So lets say JJB does his top 90 metres and Singleton would do 60 metres. What you are arguing his someone has to make up that extra 30 metres, and I am not arguing against that point.

My point was players taking extra carries to cover it. Take Kirke as an example, 7.6 metres you said per carry. So if he took just 3 extra carries, you would cover 23 metres of that difference just there. Chuck in an extra Moore carry and you will cover your missing 30.

That's how easy it is. It's whether those players are prepared to do it.

I already at the star agreed on missing defence, so what you are stretching I don't know.

Can someone let Burrow kick?

Also, why is Delaney eating (and moaning about) McDonalds when rest of his 'injured' teammates are at the game?

Leeds should be ashamed with how they've played tonight. That last set was amateur to let Warrington drive down 100 m.

This was possibly the worst Warrington performance I have seen in a few years. Leeds blew it, fair and simple.

Young side coming up against that Wire side

That was a superb performance by our boys