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25511_1478008518.jpg "Well, I think in Rugby League if you head butt someone there's normally some repercusions":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25511.jpg |
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| Quote: G1 "Sounds like a wonderful atmosphere and everything aside from the game seems spot on. But he said it was terrible game to watch and even when advocating yesterday's game you concede his point in your 1st sentence.
Of course, it's a personal preference but mine is Union is dull to watch.
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As a sport live, it's not even close to league - I would never argue that. I wasn't arguing with Tad either, just offering a different way of looking at enjoying watching a game. He usually has some story after every GF of drunken louts, threatening behaviour etc.
I don't know what the England/SA game looked like on TV but live it was absolute garbage - the one try of the match summed it up along with the worst decision by any sporting captain in history in the last 90 seconds (his after match interview which was shown on the big screens was cringeworthy). But did I "enjoy waching it" - yes. I enjoyed sitting in the stand at Twickenham with a beer or two (or 3 or 4) with my lad and watching the game.
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| Quote: G1 "...and former working class League lads like McLaren, DHM and Shebert Dip that find themselves suddenly at the top table mixing with the Union Crowd remind me of Uncle Toms when they come on here with an air of superiority to salt of the earth working class league lads who still proudly wear the chips on their shoulder put there from many years of slimy, underhand attitudes from Rugby Union all in the name of killing our sport.'"
Let it go G. Let the chip slide off, let the weight be lifted before you get arthritis or end up marching in orange up and down the Falls Road (hang on, that's another long dead, pointless conflict). There will always be Inverdale's, they are not worth it.
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| Quote: tad rhino "I dont hate it whatsoever. I played it and enjoyed playing it. Its just dire to watch'"
It is at the moment. The law changes a few years ago re-spawned the rubbish kicking game. Before that when Super Rugby first started it was mostly ball in hand. If you appreciate the contact skills and the battle for the ball then the game has improved vastly in the last 30 years technically (you can't just stamp on people till they move now). The contact and ruck skills my 9 year old has been coached are way ahead of anything I had as an adult player. FWIW I wish we lived in the North and he could play league, he has the ideal playing style and he'd love it.
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| Quote: DHM "Quote: DHM "I dont hate it whatsoever. I played it and enjoyed playing it. Its just dire to watch'"
It is at the moment. The law changes a few years ago re-spawned the rubbish kicking game. Before that when Super Rugby first started it was mostly ball in hand. If you appreciate the contact skills and the battle for the ball then the game has improved vastly in the last 30 years technically (you can't just stamp on people till they move now). The contact and ruck skills my 9 year old has been coached are way ahead of anything I had as an adult player. FWIW I wish we lived in the North and he could play league, he has the ideal playing style and he'd love it.'"
Where abouts do you live? Most places have some sort of league team, with junior set ups
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| My summation of most of the above comments is that RU internationals are a great day out only marred by the game itself.
Big occasions in RL tend to be the other way round.
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| Quote: The Eagle "Where abouts do you live? Most places have some sort of league team, with junior set ups'"
Darkest Wiltshire. I may look at it when he's a little older (if he wants to do it). We joined the RU club when he was 5 because it was at the back of our house and I could coach.
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| Quote: G1 "...and former working class League lads like McLaren, DHM and Shebert Dip that find themselves suddenly at the top table mixing with the Union Crowd remind me of Uncle Toms when they come on here with an air of superiority to salt of the earth working class league lads who still proudly wear the chips on their shoulder put there from many years of slimy, underhand attitudes from Rugby Union all in the name of killing our sport.'"
Ooh... hark at Mr Cufflinks often seen lording it at several smart-attire only poncy events at Headingley in his time... all for charity and testimonials of course. The embourgeoisement of G1 took place a very long time ago.
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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| I think for someone of my and what you are brought up with and the social and economic backgrod you come from,and the industry you have worked in at influences you.I still find union bit dull and would never consider going to watch Leeds carnegie or what ever they call themselves now,but if someone wants to watch union fair play to them,but I still dont think our game RL gets a fair crack of the whip in the media still. "RUGBY WORLD CUP"thats just one thing I think is a snipe at RL
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40515_1330766741.jpg Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "I am gradually bit by bit losing my prejudices Juan,But there are supposedly educated RU Journalists that have lots more prejudices and are far more dinosaurial than a lot of us.'"
Glad to hear Lionarmour. I was referring to the dinosaurs from both codes with signs of some RU ones dying off a bit since RU turned pro.
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40515_1330766741.jpg Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
As you grow older, it will avoid you!
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| Quote: El Barbudo "Are you talking about John Inverdale?'"
No. I enjoyed a few pints with "Invers" at Esher Rugby Club about 11 years ago when he was playing for their Vets and I found him to be a decent bloke.
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40515_1330766741.jpg Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
As you grow older, it will avoid you!
- Winston Churchill:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40515.jpg |
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| Quote: DHM "Maybe JP is going to help Farrell coach the England backs. They can't possibly be any worse than they are at the moment under Farrell's astute management.
Maybe JP could help Chris Robshaw with simple decision making as well. "Really Chris? You want to kick for goal when 4 points down and 120 seconds left to play - and it's going to take 70 seconds to take the kick (although it would probably take less time if Owen Farrell could just shut up and do as he's told)".'"
I think Farrell is coaching the backs mainly on the defence (which was good) and Mike Catt is officially the attacking skills coach (which isn't so good)
I also think Owen Farrell was aware of the situation and right to suggest going for touch.
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| Union is good to watch if you take the time to understand the rules and appreciate the tactics.
I tend to find the internationals are much more entertaining watch especially the teams such as NZ and SA. Premiership games are also good if it doesnt rain! There are teams that are better to watch than others and sometimes there are dire games but that happens in all sports.
Id rather watch Union than Football.
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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Glad to hear Lionarmour. I was referring to the dinosaurs from both codes with signs of some RU ones dying off a bit since RU turned pro.'"
Of course Juan.I think that JP is a very intelligent man inspite of his west Leeds Bramley/Stanningley accent which makes some people think differently.He may have to use the RU to influence the broadstream media to recognise that he is just as top class british sports star who deserves recognition
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37727.jpg And last but not least, to all those people that wrote this team off, to all those people that criticized this team...tonight's for you, thank you.
I'll tell you this now, of all the sportsmen I have ever seen, this guy is the most impressive. Clare Balding 6/10/12:37727.jpg |
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| Quote: Ande "Union is good to watch if you take the time to understand the rules and appreciate the tactics.
I tend to find the internationals are much more entertaining watch especially the teams such as NZ and SA. Premiership games are also good if it doesnt rain! There are teams that are better to watch than others and sometimes there are dire games but that happens in all sports.
Id rather watch Union than Football.'"
I beg to differ...I played Union for 30 years, but have watched League for over 40 years.
I understand Union rules, and it is a wholly inadequate form of rugby, players lack basic skills we take for granted in league, 15 of them cover a pitch in defense, and still tackling skills are absent even at international level. Five Nations players lack tactical nouse, and frequently take wrong options..International Union is frequently like watching paint dry.
I was a very average Union player, and chose the 15 man code as an easier option...I can't think of a single union player that I would want to see in a Rhinos shirt.
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| Quote: G1 "...and former working class League lads like McLaren, DHM and Shebert Dip that find themselves suddenly at the top table mixing with the Union Crowd remind me of Uncle Toms when they come on here with an air of superiority to salt of the earth working class league lads who still proudly wear the chips on their shoulder put there from many years of slimy, underhand attitudes from Rugby Union all in the name of killing our sport.'"
He's hacked your account again Gareth.
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