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Hood is already back he played for the U20's on friday.

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Quote: rhinoms "Hood is already back he played for the U20's on friday.'"


Aaaahhhhhh.... missed that. Was just me then! icon_wink.gif

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Hardaker
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Quote: thebloodbath "Like how Webb is judged on a similar scale to the Anti-Christ by some on here.

'fickle' doesn't even cover it.'"


We could always play senior at centre, you know out of loyalty? We did it in 2005...

Sorry, but his performances dictate how he is judged. Fickle would be calling for him to be dropped after 2/3 performances.

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "We could always play senior at centre, you know out of loyalty? We did it in 2005...

Sorry, but his performances dictate how he is judged. Fickle would be calling for him to be dropped after 2/3 performances.'"


It's the venom that seems to have swirled up that I don't like.

Some enjoy sticking the boot in. I believe he deserves more respect.

The up-rising of Zak is great for the club, and you have to evolve as a team. I'm a huge fan of Zak, I love his confidence and natural ability to find gaps, make gaps in such an ad-libbed way.

The Wakefield game was a disaster for Webb. Apart from that which games specifically are you basing this on?

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Quote: thebloodbath "It's the venom that seems to have swirled up that I don't like.

Some enjoy sticking the boot in. I believe he deserves more respect.

The up-rising of Zak is great for the club, and you have to evolve as a team. I'm a huge fan of Zak, I love his confidence and natural ability to find gaps, make gaps in such an ad-libbed way.

The Wakefield game was a disaster for Webb. Apart from that which games specifically are you basing this on?'"


I'm basing it on my opinion of him over the last 18 months. His attacking ability is brilliant, but it's his petulance and absolutely dismal tackling attempts that I don't like. He always used to have a gob and I didn't used to mind so much, but so often now he is arguing with the ref when he is blatently in the wrong and giving away penalties whilst in posession. It clearly rubs off on the players around him when he plays as well. He deserves as much respect as he seems to be showing our team, the officials and opposition players at the moment.

Zak is far from the finished article, but I would prefer an honest mistake from Zak over a brain-fart from Webb in the final.

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "He always used to have a gob and I didn't used to mind so much, but so often now he is arguing with the ref when he is blatently in the wrong and giving away penalties whilst in posession. It clearly rubs off on the players around him when he plays as well. He deserves as much respect as he seems to be showing our team, the officials and opposition players at the moment.'"


When Leeds get there 'petulant head' on Webbs up there.

But so is Sinfield....JP....JJB....Delaney....Ablett.

Yes the penalties he gives away in attack is such a huge issue. Cant' move for it.

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Warrington resting a few heads for Wembley:

Atkins, Blythe, Bridge, Cooper, Currie, Evans, Grix, Higham, Hill, McCarthy, Monaghan, Morley, Myler, Ratchford, Riley, Solomona, Waterhouse, Williams, Wood

Thats the squad for their game against London on Friday. No Harrison, Briers, Hodgson, J Monaghan, Westwood, Carvell.

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Still a good team to do a job though. So much strength in depth.

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Quote: thebloodbath "It's the venom that seems to have swirled up that I don't like.

Some enjoy sticking the boot in. I believe he deserves more respect.

The up-rising of Zak is great for the club, and you have to evolve as a team. I'm a huge fan of Zak, I love his confidence and natural ability to find gaps, make gaps in such an ad-libbed way.

The Wakefield game was a disaster for Webb. Apart from that which games specifically are you basing this on?'"


I'm with you on this. Would only pick him for Wembley as an option from the bench, but that's more down to the form of others (Hardaker and Ablett mainly) than Webb. He's been an absolute star for the club since he came, and he's still a player I wouldn't mind having around for a big occasion.

I just think I'd go with Hardaker at on form.

Hardaker

BJB
Watkins
Ablett
Hall

Sinfield
Burrow

Leuluai
Lunt
Peacock
Delaney/JJB
Ward
Bailey

Griffin
JJB/Delaney
Kirke
Webb

Webb can still offer some useful options in attack, and would be pretty good to have around if you don't like the way things are going and want to change things a bit.

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BM tried to be to clever at wakey. Just be simple. Hardaker at fb, burrow sh and lunt h. If the forwards do there job we'll win. Simple as that

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I remember the first Leeds tackle of the '09 GF when Webb gave away a penalty for a high shot, the first Leeds possesion of the '11 GF when he incorrectly PTB and again gave away a penalty, we can't be gifting Warrington an early start and Webb still makes his mistakes in big games. Allowing Makinson to score in last year's GF and the dropped high ball against Manly that he got away with a couple of others. He does bring plently of good but so do all the alternatives without the brainfarts that we really can't afford.

7 - Burrow
9 - Lunt
SUBS - Griffin, Kirke, Clarkson, Ward

If Lunt is having a great game and can last then you can leave him and Burrow as they are which would leave Webb hard to bring on off the bench whereas Ward can cover if Lunt does needs resting or simply go on in the back row instead if not.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I remember the first Leeds tackle of the '09 GF when Webb gave away a penalty for a high shot, the first Leeds possesion of the '11 GF when he incorrectly PTB and again gave away a penalty, we can't be gifting Warrington an early start and Webb still makes his mistakes in big games. [sizeAllowing Makinson to score in last year's GF[/size and the dropped high ball against Manly that he got away with a couple of others. He does bring plently of good but so do all the alternatives without the brainfarts that we really can't afford.

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When he'd shepherded the ball dead and the Video Ref incorrectly awarded a try? Harsh to blame him for that. Or to ignore the game-changing try he scored in the same game. The results in the games you mentioned were pretty good also.

Can't help but agree that there are negative aspects to his game nowadays (penalties and attitude), but not sure you could fault him as a big game player. Personally I wouldn't move Hardaker from fullback, but the current version of Webb plays pretty much the same game as McGuire ball-in-hand anyway and for me is the obvious replacement without messing around with the rest of the team.

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Of course it was his fault. And it was a try. Seems only you disagree

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It was a Try CI Webb dropped a bollock luckily he still played a key role in helping us get the win but as time has gone on the gamble to play him is becoming bigger!!

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