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How many titles do you have to win at the club before people remember your name?

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Thats exactly the point being made rastrick, the lad hasn't had a run of games to prove one way or the other if he his good anough. he always looks ok to me but as has been said theres a lot of competition for backrow and how do you give em all a run?

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "That line's a bit rich after Leeds just pinched Briscoe from Hull, not to mention Hardaker from Featherstone etc!'"

Not to mention Pitts, himself, from Wakefield.

Gotcha, specifically who made what promises to Pitts and how are you privvy to those promises? Or are you just making stuff up?

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Quote: G1 "Not to mention Pitts, himself, from Wakefield.

Gotcha, specifically who made what promises to Pitts and how are you privvy to those promises? Or are you just making stuff up?'"


Don't make him use the word "fact" again.... eusa_naughty.gif

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Quote: Andy Gilder "What relevance does that have to sending players out on loan?

If Hull FC had been bothered enough to tie their own youngsters up to long term contracts perhaps they wouldn't have to go around trying to sign players on loan from other SL clubs.'"



who was the boss at hull fc before adam pearson

send the answers on a post card to Gary Hetherington at leeds so he can pass on to his wife

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Quote: Andy Gilder "What relevance does that have to sending players out on loan?

If Hull FC had been bothered enough to tie their own youngsters up to long term contracts perhaps they wouldn't have to go around trying to sign players on loan from other SL clubs.'"


Which brings us back full circle to the Pearson 5h!t slinging comment.

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Quote: G1 "Not to mention Pitts, himself, from Wakefield.

Gotcha, specifically who made what promises to Pitts and how are you privvy to those promises? Or are you just making stuff up?'"


I'm not suggesting privvy to anything. Look back at the announcement of his signing, you don't need to read anymore it is all there.

Pitts had a choice of clubs when coming to end of his contract, Wakefield deperately wanted him to stay, but we decided to get in early and pay a fee, on the basis that we had a shortage of players ready for the next step. Those were the opportunities presented to Pitts, and he went for the one from Leeds.

Look at what he club announced the intention was for him, and look at what he is doing now.

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Quote: Gotcha "I'm not suggesting privvy to anything. Look back at the announcement of his signing, you don't need to read anymore it is all there.

Pitts had a choice of clubs when coming to end of his contract, Wakefield deperately wanted him to stay, but we decided to get in early and pay a fee, on the basis that we had a shortage of players ready for the next step. Those were the opportunities presented to Pitts, and he went for the one from Leeds.

Look at what he club announced the intention was for him, and look at what he is doing now.'"


He was mis-led.

I'm not sure how anybody can dispute that.

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Quote: nantwichexile "He was mis-led.

I'm not sure how anybody can dispute that.'"

I'm disputing it. As the Brain Trust of you and Gotcha are claiming it, let's see if one of you can prove it.

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If he's not good enough yet, he should be given a loan to prepare him to potentially play week in week out. If he's not deemed good enough he should be let go. If he's going to be used in rotation, he should stay patient. Simple.

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[sizeI know I still have a big challenge in front of me here at Leeds to prove to my team mates and the coaches that I am worthy of a place in the first team. [/size'"


Can't any promises there. Pitts knew the score. Looks like He's failed to meet the challenge he set himself rather than any broken promises.



No promises there either.

So, I'll ask again, just what were these promises or is it just guff that has been made up. IMO, it's Guff from the usual suspects.

The quotes at the time of his signing made it clear that both player and coach (at that time Mclennan) knew this was both an opportunity and a challenge for Pitts. Not that he had been made any promises.

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Quote: nantwichexile "He was mis-led.

I'm not sure how anybody can dispute that.'"


.... And it's a shame. Without a doubt he has better abilities than some we could all name ( and is younger ).
I am still optimistic that Hauraki can make a decent second rower, but I'm also sure Pitts could have been developed into something the equal of Huaraki.......and thus freed up a valuable quota spot to boot.

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Quote: G1 "www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7593.php

Can't any promises there. Pitts knew the score. Looks like He's failed to meet the challenge he set himself rather than any broken promises.


So you don't think he is being politically correct here ? Being an employee most of us are careful in what we say whilst still wanting to be employed.

Do you think he has been given an equal chance as others have ?

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.... And even if you're right G1 is it really that important to you to be proven right ? Personally I couldn't be bothered researching what you've done here.....

Each to their own I guess icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "I'm not blaming the club. I am blaming the promises made to Pitts when he signed, the fact that they were going to develop him into a prop due to the shortage we had coming through in that area. He was never going to be a prop in my eyes, but that's irrelevant because that is what he was told. McLennan was the coach at the time, and obviously he changed his mind on that development, and then a change of coach after has not helped the lad to develop his game, whilst signing a boat load of props anyway.

Therefore for me, his best course of action if he want's to get a new contract is to prove himself playing, and the only option he could have to do that is to go on loan.

Why does it always come down to been the players fault what these scenarios arise? Sometimes it's just too much competition or your face doesn't fit.'"

Im not saying its anybodys fault. I wouldnt blame Pitts if he turns out to be not good enough. But players have been and are given chances in the first team in the 2nd row. A young player has shown himself to be better, and a centre has proven himself better. These are the facts of life for a professional sportsman. If Pitts wants to play first team, he needs to prove himself good enough for first team.

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