Not at all, i know them to be fact also.

Just re read what you posted originally. Thought it was aimed at me

Too defensive these days

Seth wrote:No, however, as i said, opinions are very different from the utter tripe that was posted on here. Mine are just opinions though ones formed from seeing the coaches run sessions, being involved in their sessions and from talking to them, not from simply watching from the stands.

I know he won't do this (speak up) himself because he isn't that way inclined, but over the last ten years Leicester Rhino has played with, for, and against some of the brightest up and coming coaches and players, from NL3 down, players who in some cases have gone on to play to championship level and some whom are now on scholarships at Super League clubs. He has played against teams coached by current and ex Superleague players and has been instrumental in the development of one of the success stories of Rugby League in the last decade.

I would even go so far as to say that his personality, his demeanour and his playing skill has been a major factor in the recruitment, retention, and development of the game in the Midlands, not just in Nottingham, but from Gloucester, to Shropshire, to Birmingham , Coventry, Leamington, Derby and Sheffield.

If Leicester Rhino is of the opinion that BMc is not a coach of the highest calibre, I would be inclined to respect that opinion because he is not given to wasting his breathe spouting hyperbole and self agrandising claptrap.

Rant over.

after reading keith senior's book he mentions that when Mcdermott left leeds to take over at quins some fans questioned smith and how he was coaching the team and that it was brian doing all the coaching all along, i'm not brians biggest fan but it's amazing how fans can change their minds about a coach in three short years. i'm not going to say he's the next wayne bennett but i suppose he deserves some credit for getting us to the 2 major finals on offer with the so called "worst" leeds squad in quite a while?

I've got faith in McDermott. Dismissing his abilities at this stage is akin to writing off a player at 23 or 24. And the player's ability to improve is likely to be limited at some stage by his physical capabilities; a coach's isn't.

On another thread I mentioned that I thought McDermott wasn't as bad as I had earlier feared.

I had gone from ...
"Not looking good, strange selections, we are playing badly ... but I guess we'll have to let him see the season out"
to
"We are playing a lot better but, for me, the jury is still out on whether he actually is any good."

I am still positioned on that second view, I still suspect the players have learned to play around his coaching rather than with with it.
I really do hope I'm wrong.

For me, the jury was still out on McClennan ... right up until he left.
I'm still not convinced about him.
Either way.

As would I though I would not be inclined to simply accept or agree it because of where it came from. I usually like to form my own opinions, even when they clash with the opinions of people I count as friends or people I consider knowledgeable. I've disagreed with one such person on here already, Seth, and have also disagreed with Leicester Rhino (who I consider knowledgeable) on another thread today. I'd like to think that as grown ups we can live with differences of opinion.

Nope, you've got the market on that well and truly sewn up!

Not done any finger related problems for 2+ years now. Biscuit clavicle is another matter

Was it built by Gaudi ?

(Some seriously supercilious people on here. Fans do undoubtedly want quick satisfying results for their buck and will invariably look for a scapegoat in lean times - especially if there is a hugely apparent lacklustre team effort - but I think most contributors on here have been relatively patient, to varying degrees, with Leeds' incumbent coach. The name calling has, maybe, been done only in a misguided attempt at humourous good play on his name: at least as far as I remember. Chill lads. We are ALL only expressing opinions)

I don't think Warrington had an off day,far from it, i think that Leeds put them in a place they'd not been for a long time. Having mullered wigan, Hull and huddersfield in quick succession they were blowing teams away until they met a side that were more than their equals in Leeds. Nobody will have tackled them harder or closed their key players down quicker than leeds did last week. The St Helens v Wigan game looked like it was in slow motion by comparison.