They make you outsiders not because they don't think you have a chance, but because none of their punters think you have a chance. That's how bookmaking works isn't it? Balancing odds depending on what direction the money's going?

FWIW I think 16-1 is far too long for just winning two games, particularly given you'll be able to hedge and lay at probably 4-1 for the final if you beat Leeds (which I don't think you will, but in betting terms it's good value).

/betting advice.

Like when salford went to Warrington and won? Give it a rest..

lets get onething straight we dont fear you infact we relish the fact we can bet you,you are clear favourites but we fancy this and wont die wondering in what is our biggest game for years, RIGHT US OFF AT YOUR PERRIL we want this more than any game we have ever played.where coming for you and never forget that.

Hull and Castleford have a lot in common socially, economically, intellectually and demographically.

is that the best come back you can come up with,im telling you we dont fear you we will be up for this WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE unlike yourselves who have averything to lose.

I wasn't aware there was a competition going on for the best come back. Not interested anyhow. I just deal with reality.

Leeds are an ordinary team this year. Fortunately for them, Castleford are whipping boy rabble (just like Hull FC). That's why Leeds are off to Wembley again and Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers.

You may have noticed the celebratory Leeds dressing room immediately after they were aware of who they'd drawn in the Semi Final? I certainly did. Their collective expressions had 'Wembley' written all over them.

I agree, so why are you arguing?



Where have I said that Castleford won't be up for it? Of course they'll be up for it but it's highly unlikely that'll be enough to secure them a trip to Wembley.

I deal with reality and the reality is that Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers. When was the last time Castleford won a CC Semi Final during the SL era?

Exactly.

Just think, by the 7th August, Cas could be out of the Cup and out of Super League ....

Good to see selective quoting.

Never mind. I can't be d arguing with someone who talks nonsense.

What selective quoting? I quoted your earlier response in full.



Feel free to return when...

1. You're able to refrain from ascribing the [i'nonsense'[/i you happen to be spouting on to others.

2. You're able to construct a valid argument for Castleford as a genuine contender to win the CC Semi Final by citing some evidence of previous Castleford CC Semi Final wins during the SL era.

3. If you can't manage (2) above, I'll have to assume you're in agreement with me that Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers based on past SL evidence, and that they are indeed just whipping boys in waiting.

You will feel an absolute **** if Leeds lose.

Precisely.

Betting odds never represent the actual likelyhood of any event happening, they merely represent a commercial decision by the profitable enterprise of the bookmaker to pitch a sale at a level that will attract the most fools eager to part with their money for no tangible benefit.