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Hopefully we'll go with...
Webb
Bjb
Watkins
Delaney
Hall
Mcguire
Burrow
peacock
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Ablett
Sinfield

kylie
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I like the above team by rhinoms and usually I would like to see hauraki dropped but I thought he had a good game Friday and probably deserves his spot

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Smith and McShane drop out of the 19.
Webb and Leuluai return
1 Brent Webb
3 Brett Delaney
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
7 Rob Burrow
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones Buchanan
12 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Ali Lauitiiti
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
20 Weller Hauraki
21 Chris Clarkson
22 Jay Pitts
23 Ben Jones-Bishop
27 Zak Hardaker

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Likely to be:

Webb
Hardaker, Ablett, BJB, Hall
McGuire, Burrow
Leuluai, Buderus, Peacock
JJB, Delaney
Sinfield

Bailey, Kirke, Clarkson, Hauraki

Would like:

BJB
Hardaker, Delaney, Ablett, Hall
Webb, Burrow
Bailey, Buderus, Peacock
JJB, Clarkson
Sinfield

Leuluai, Hauraki, Ali, McGuire

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Why would anyone put BJB in at centre?

I would prefer:

BJB
Hardaker, Delaney, Ablett, Hall
McGuire, Burrow
Bailey, Buderus, Peacock
JJB, Clarkson
Sinfield

Leuluai, Hauraki, Pitts, Kirke

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Quote: west_leeds_rhino "Why would anyone put BJB in at centre?

I would prefer

I can't understand why anyone would want to leave Webb out when he has arguably been our most creative player this year. According to the Opta stats he has 5 tries and 15 assists this year from 18 games. This compares to Sinfield (1 try and 17 assists from 22 games), Burrow (6 tries and 3 assists from 21 games), McGuire (4 tries and 3 assists from 9 games).

For me:

Webb
BJB, Delaney, Ablett, Hall
Sinfield, Burrow
Bailey, Buderus, Peacock
JJB, Clarkson,
Ablett

Leuleuai, Lauititi, Kirke, McGuire - although I wouldn't be too disapponinted to see Pitts for Kirke

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Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "I can't understand why anyone would want to leave Webb out when he has arguably been our most creative player this year. According to the Opta stats he has 5 tries and 15 assists this year from 18 games. This compares to Sinfield (1 try and 17 assists from 22 games), Burrow (6 tries and 3 assists from 21 games), McGuire (4 tries and 3 assists from 9 games).

For me

I've just watched the highlights rlhererl and BJB is just so dependable. Webb might be creative but his commitment and awareness in defence or for the kick after the 4th/5th is just not there anymore. His gob is too predictable too!

Lauititi shouldn't even get a free ride on the bus let alone get to keep one of the benches in the dug out warm! This season so far he has been anonymous. Kirke or Pitts would get a shout over him for me.

Would agree about perhaps starting McGuire on the bench.

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Quote: west_leeds_rhino "I've just watched the highlights rlhererl and BJB is just so dependable. Webb might be creative but his commitment and awareness in defence or for the kick after the 4th/5th is just not there anymore. His gob is too predictable too!

Lauititi shouldn't even get a free ride on the bus let alone get to keep one of the benches in the dug out warm! This season so far he has been anonymous. Kirke or Pitts would get a shout over him for me.

Would agree about perhaps starting McGuire on the bench.'"


Sorry, going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you watch Webb when the opposition make a break you will notice how aware he is. Not only is he lining up his man but he directs the cover defence as to which support runners to take.

I would take Lauititi over Kirke / Pitts any day of the week. You can criticise him for being injury prone, however IMO you can't fault his commitment when he does get on the pitch. Some things may not come off for him but I'd rather have him offering the potential of something rather than Kirke offering very little. Ali has played half the game Kirke has and has made more tackle busts, more offloads and scored more tries than Kirke has. I would also guess that despite his declien over recent years, opposition teams are still more fearful of Ali than they ever have been of Kirke which helps create space for others.

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Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "
For meAblett, Hall
Sinfield, Burrow
Bailey, Buderus, Peacock
JJB, Clarkson,
Ablett
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I know Ablett is playing extremely well, but to expect him to play in 2 positions in the starting 13 is a bit much to ask icon_smile.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "Hopefully we'll go with...
Webb
Bjb
Watkins
Delaney
Hall
Mcguire
Burrow
peacock
Buderus
Bailey
Jjb
Ablett
Sinfield

kylie
Hauraki/Mcshane
Clarkson
Ali'"



Your "hopefully" includes Hauraki ? and Delaney in the threequarters at the expense of Hardaker ? icon_eek.gif

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If Webb's fit he plays then it's a toss up between Hardaker and Bjb with the latter shading it on the experience front and the fact it's a CC quarter final.
delaney will do a job on Yeaman on our right edge and with Ali coming on as a prop imo Hauraki could add the extra threat and tbf he did well imo last week although i would'nt mind Mcshane taking the bench spot.
CC QF no time for experiments kylie walks back in because we know he can help smash the Hull pack which he and Bailey have done well over the last 3 yrs or so.
it's a straight forward selection and maybe harsh on Hardaker and tbf i would'nt be gitted to see Zak selected ahead of Bjb but like i said i went for the one with more SL games.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Your "hopefully" includes Hauraki ? and Delaney in the threequarters at the expense of Hardaker ? We're not all like you wanting 15 year old academy hopefuls starting in the 1st team.

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Quote: chapylad "
1 Brent Webb
3 Brett Delaney
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
7 Rob Burrow
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones Buchanan
12 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Ali Lauitiiti
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
20 Weller Hauraki
21 Chris Clarkson
23 Ben Jones-Bishop
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Hardaker & Pitts drop out of the 19 and play in the 20s - meaning our 17 is the above?

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Quote: rhinoms "If Webb's fit he plays then it's a toss up between Hardaker and Bjb with the latter shading it on the experience front and the fact it's a CC quarter final.
delaney will do a job on Yeaman on our right edge and with Ali coming on as a prop imo Hauraki could add the extra threat and tbf he did well imo last week although i would'nt mind Mcshane taking the bench spot.
CC QF no time for experiments kylie walks back in because we know he can help smash the Hull pack which he and Bailey have done well over the last 3 yrs or so.
it's a straight forward selection and maybe harsh on Hardaker and tbf i would'nt be gitted to see Zak selected ahead of Bjb but like i said i went for the one with more SL games.'"


Since when has greater experience being a better guarantee of success ? Senior ? Hauraki has far greater experience than Hardaker for example, but I know who I would have greater confidence in.

Composure and confidence are better attributes over experience. I would suggest Hardaker has oodles ... And does not deserve to be dropped.

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Quote: Sam Buca II "We're not all like you wanting 15 year old academy hopefuls starting in the 1st team.'"


Nah ... Make it 16 ....and girls....in short skirts instead of shorts...That will make it much more interesting to watch. Better season ticket value than our current shambles.

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