We were poor.

Who is blaming refs?

Can't we discuss refs performances on here?

Under general circumstances I would agree with you. But here I think you are way out.

The try for Blanch would not have been given by ANY other ref. Even someone as stupid as Child should have gone to the video. Had he done that the try would have been chalked off.

At the point in the game where Leeds had momentum we would have been within 2 points (assuming the other points Catalans scored would have still happend), rather than 8 points behind. That score had a massive bearing in how that game was going, and the style of play required.

We would be perfectly reasonable to question Child's performance.

Correct he never missed a tackle either

if you spend a game in your own half then all the decisions that don't go your way are "big". The no try was a joke yes. It was evened up though iirc. Sadly the tackle count, fumbles and time on D wasn't. If that try was the reason you think we lost the game then idk what to say other than we were poor, we got what was coming scrum try or no scrum try.

It's a numbers game and thats something the wakey/cas fans never recognised when citing ref bias toward "the big teams". In the days when we knew how to attack (read we had 1 recognised and top permoring centre) opposition fans used to say we got away with alot but like I say you make your own luck. It happens in all sports.

Up until now I had considered Alibert the worst ref in SL ....pity Child a close second. He's now made it to the top of that league. Appalling decisions throughout . .. We were still crap though: totally devoid of any idea in organised attack other than kick on the fourth.

And can somebody please tell me the point of touch judges / linesmen / linespersons / whatever ?

The amount of obvious forward passes for and against this season missed by these comatosed dummies is enough to make me gasp almost as much as I do when reacting to the stupidity of Cameron / Sarkozy grandstanding over Libya.

Think you can do rlbetterrl?

No I'm TOO comatose ( at least on a weekend )

Mr Child has been consistently bad at all the Catalan games i've witnessed at Perpignan - he's not been biased,just rubbish for whichever team has been playing.He is a poor ref but no other ref would have made any difference to the outcome - you lot were outplayed by a better drilled/coached outfit on the day.Well played Catalans,what a difference a coach makes........

I've got to agree. I think Childs is appalling, but he didn't make Leeds lose. We are shocking in defence this year, and dis-jointed in attack. Childs should still be questioned by his superiors though.
I know I may be out on a limb, but I reckon Ben Thaler is one of the best refs around. I know he makes the odd mistake, but they all do. He is at least consistent.

can't imagine how Mr Childs has kept his post TBH ! he's consistently bad IMO...

they all will always mak mistakes and about with Mr Thaler though for me Mr.Alibert has been the most consistent so far this season

what's worrying me this season is the lack of support and inability of the TDs to make the correct decisions when some decisions are so bl*****g obvious from the stands...

How polite are the French, to self-edit bleeding.

I tried to argue this case yesterday with my brother but he was right when he said you have to earn penalties. When your markers are all over the place like ours were all the time you are going to get penalities against you. We couldnt get any quick plays, so unless Catalans are careless you aint getting many marker or offside penalties.

Highlighted the penalty count stat because i dont think an 12-11 penalty count in your favour wins you game or a 6-9 penalty count means you lose by 36. The 'coincidence' is wakefield and crusaders are 2 of the 3 worst teams in the league and warrington and catalans are 2 of the best, hence the final score.

bloody right mate !

thought it was clever play by Hendo,he spotted the bad organisation in the Leeds side and played it to his teams' advantage - he's been playing really well in the past couple of months and doesn't get the praise he deserves IMO.
Disappointed with the Rhinos performance - the body language doesn't look right.I saw them arrive at the ground and all the players and staff looked terrified as though the pressure was really on them to get the points.Very reminiscent of the Catalans last season with Mr Walters in charge......