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Quote: mirfieldrhino "From my view is the SS, he called held at the same time as the player offloaded. Slight refereeing error but it happens. Correct way to restart is with a scrum to attacking team.'"


Correct, although Leeds weren't the attacking team, they were simply the team in possession.

When the ball is offloaded simultaneous to the call of held, the team with territorial advantage should get the head and feed.

We were lucky Child got it wrong and I suspect that Cummings will have a word in his ear.

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Quote: RossRhino "The jjb penalty for dissent second half should also have been a penalty to Leeds for a grapple tackle. They took 2 points and I think made it 20-6 and from then on it was never going to happen for Leeds.

Jjb shouldn't have gobbed off but he shouldn't have been put into a position where his frustration boiled over.
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That was frustrating, it was clear to see that JJB had recieved some "roughing up" in the tackle yet Child wasn't even looking at the tackle or the PTB, he just saw JJB giving the verbals

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The problem for Leeds last night was not the ref, but the team itself. The ref didn't drop the ball of gob off did he. McDermott needs to start getting a grip on his team.

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Quote: Huddersfield1895 "The problem for Leeds last night was not the ref, but the team itself. The ref didn't drop the ball of gob off did he. McDermott needs to start getting a grip on his team.'"



But he was a large reason as to why they did

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i don't agree. i didn't think he go a lot wrong.
i still think he's out of his depth but was ok last night

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Leeds have been a back end of the season team the past couple of years coming to life in the later stages so who knows whats round the corner this year!

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Quote: tonys_triumphs "Leeds have been a back end of the league team the past couple of years so who knows whats round the corner this year!'"


On the sherbet so early?

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Quote: Lawrie L "But he was a large reason as to why they did'"


Rubbish - Leeds frustration was their inability to compete with a far superior side - sides on the receiving end give away most penalties - something very evident last night.

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Quote: Lawrie L "But he was a large reason as to why they did'"

Leeds have been the biggest whingers in Superleague for the last three or four seasons, regardless of the referee and particularly when losing. Leeds showed a lot of indiscipline last night, in their ball handling and in their attitude. If they get both those factors sorted then they may have a chance this season.

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As well as Leeds being inconsistent around the ruck and giving silly penalties away when it wasn't needed.never really help their matters either!

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Quote: SaintsFan "Leeds have been the biggest whingers in Superleague for the last three or four seasons, regardless of the referee and particularly when losing. Leeds showed a lot of indiscipline last night, in their ball handling and in their attitude. If they get both those factors sorted then they may have a chance this season.'"


As much as it pains me to agree with a Saints fan.... I do with last part. The first sentence is just a poor attempt at trolling mate icon_wink.gif

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1. Our team selection was wrong/poor, 2. Our gameplan was wrong/poor, 3. Our 'shape' was wrong/poor, 4. Our gameplay was wrong/poor, 5. Our decision making was wrong/poor, 6. Our discipline was wrong/poor, 7. Our coach was wrong/poor, and 8. Warrington were the opposite!
On top of that we had Child who has been promoted way above his level of competence and who, last night, appeared to let so many 'Warrys' encroach well into the 10 that it was non-existent and who made, as usual, a few blatant errors. The players and the SS get so frustrated by his apparent determination to ignore even-handedness and to influence the game more than the players. The players HAVE to ignore it and play-on, but they don't seem to be able to. The SS, me included, just get angry and disappointed, and we are entitled to! We pay!
If Child spent less time doing his wierd visualising and positioning practice whilst talking to himself before the game and more learning how to be fair, accurate and just he could be a decent Ref. He's not there yet.. .by a long way!

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Child was going back 12 or 13 metres last night so of course the Warrington defenders were stood in front of him.

Look at the way Leeds fail to do the most fundamental basics like numbering up correctly in defence, and calling the plays in advance, before you start having a go at the ref. For example how many times did we fail to make a competent last tackle play, or how many times did we fail to pair off correctly at a scrum when they had the feed. Basics that are only one simple aspect of why we are crap. All this without going into collision technique or ball control. TS had to coach the players how to hold the bloody ball when he came, and it looks like we have forgotten everything he ever said in favour of the current pair of muppets...

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Not looking good for leeds with them two in control tbh!

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