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| I'd disagree with you there Andy. With McGuire's injury being a leg injury I doubt he'll have been doing as much cardio work since he won't have been able to/unwilling to risk sprinting for a long time. Whilst there might, as you rightly point out, be more line breaks the general pace of the game will be slower and far less intense at U20 level. So whilst he does have to get back 10 every tackle he has longer to get back that 10m every tackle than in a first team game. As you also rightly point out he'll be getting the ball just as often but the defensive line is slower giving him longer to make the plays. The tackles are also likely to be softer and less likely to be twisted and turned and pressure exerted on joints etc than in a first team game. In general it's a far less intense game across the board and is a good way of easing back in to playing. If it wasn't then teams wouldn't use it for players returning from injury. Recent examples being Richards at Wigan and Delaney for us.
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7098.jpg [quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance.
There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. [/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg |
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| Quote: Him "I'd disagree with you there Andy. With McGuire's injury being a leg injury I doubt he'll have been doing as much cardio work since he won't have been able to/unwilling to risk sprinting for a long time. Whilst there might, as you rightly point out, be more line breaks the general pace of the game will be slower and far less intense at U20 level. So whilst he does have to get back 10 every tackle he has longer to get back that 10m every tackle than in a first team game. As you also rightly point out he'll be getting the ball just as often but the defensive line is slower giving him longer to make the plays. The tackles are also likely to be softer and less likely to be twisted and turned and pressure exerted on joints etc than in a first team game. In general it's a far less intense game across the board and is a good way of easing back in to playing. If it wasn't then teams wouldn't use it for players returning from injury. Recent examples being Richards at Wigan and Delaney for us.'"
I bet there are a hell of a lot more examples of players returning straight to the first team.
I know it will be a tougher game but my point is that if he is fit for one he is fit for the other. If he can't go 80 minutes the decision is are we better with him for 40-50 which I think we are. If there is any doubt about his leg he shouldn't be playing either. He could get hurt just as easily in an Academy game
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "Disagree. Yes there is such thing. I'm not talking about fitness with his injury as I'm sure that would be healed now hence why the medical staff have eased him back into full training and squad selection. I'm talking about fitness in the lungs and the reactions that differ in speeds between U20s and SL.
I'm quite a keen runner, I run marathons but if I got injured for 8 months I wouldn't lace my trainers and enter a marathon straight away! Its the same for McGuire, ease your way back in at a level where least amount of questions will be asked about you.'"
So, your a keen runner so you think you know better than a whole team of experts as to what a PROFESSIONAL rugby league should do?
Where did you come in your last marathon? Top 10? 100? 1000? 10000?
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| Quote: Him "So whilst he does have to get back 10 every tackle he has longer to get back that 10m every tackle than in a first team game. '"
He'll be fine attacking and defending (as he does remember) out there on the wing.
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Quote: Him "So, your a keen runner so you think you know better than a whole team of experts as to what a PROFESSIONAL rugby league should do?
Where did you come in your last marathon? Top 10? 100? 1000? 10000?'"
Best to ignore Neil, he has a history of second guessing the Leeds medical staff and citing 'miracles' rather than 'science' when any player returns a week sooner that previously anticipated.
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| Quote: tvoc "He'll be fine attacking and defending (as he does remember) out there on the wing.'"
As Wheels might say
Haaaa
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| Subtle tvoc, subtle.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Subtle tvoc, subtle.'"
I thought it was a very un-subtle dig at Fishta.
Sadly wasted as I understand Fishta is no more of these parts.
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| That's a shame if true. I was anticipating his return to this forum after the televised game at Castleford on Friday with at least one instance of cover defence (or attack) down the flank to 'prove' his p[iis[/is weak observation from a couple of weeks ago.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| I don't like to tittle tattle but after a run in with the alpha male he threw an epic tantrum and won't be seen again. Sad really, he was fine sport.
Classic G1.
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| I rarely, if ever, venture away from this board so sad to say I missed that.
It's only truely 'Classic' with a
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| JP will be in the squad for friday. My source at HQ confirmed this today.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "I rarely, if ever, venture away from this board so sad to say I missed that.
It's only truely 'Classic' with a
It all happened on here, then it went away, as has he.
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| Quote: Norman Stanley Fletcher "JP will be in the squad for friday. My source at HQ confirmed this today.'"
Presumably Bailey's injury gives him a route straight back in without leaving out any of the other three props, who all went well yesterday and would be rightly disappointed at being dropped?
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