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| Quote: Harrigan "No, he hit the floor a couple of feet out and as he bounced he moved his arm our in front of him. Plus there were 4 officials in the area so if he had of stopped first you would have expected at least 1 to notice it.'"
If he had passed to a colleague instead of reaching out for the tryline, after his initial contact with the floor would his pass have been legal or would he have been penalised for "passing off the floor"?
When is a situation a penalty offence and when is it not?
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| Two different scenarios.
In your example probably a penalty against Jones-Buchanan for passing off the floor (this isn't Union tha knows), while in the real life example from Friday a try to Jones-Buchanan was probably the correct call as his momentum had not stopped when he hit the floor although you could make a case to say he propelled himself forward with his knees after the bounce so it was one that could have gone either way.
He'd have been unlucky to have it chalked off though (and Leeds were owed one after McGuire had a legitimate score ruled out for a double movement last season at Hull KR.)
Just reward for the prop forward after working so hard to get there in support.
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| Quote: tvoc "Two different scenarios.
In your example probably a penalty against Jones-Buchanan for passing off the floor (this isn't Union tha knows), while in the real life example from Friday a try to Jones-Buchanan was probably the correct call as his momentum had not stopped when he hit the floor although you could make a case to say he propelled himself forward with his knees after the bounce so it was one that could have gone either way.
He'd have been unlucky to have it chalked off though (and Leeds were owed one after McGuire had a legitimate score ruled out for a double movement last season at Hull KR.)
Just reward for the prop forward after working so hard to get there in support.'"
& having to fight off the ref as well as Burrow to get hold of the ball!!
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| It most other circumstances it would've been the most blatant double movement I'd ever seen, except he was wearing a Leeds shirt, so I'm gonna say it was fine.
HTH
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "It most other circumstances it would've been the most blatant double movement I'd ever seen, except he was wearing a Leeds shirt, so I'm gonna say it was fine.
HTH
You have proven to know little about the game of Rugby League though so I believe that makes my initial call of try deadset
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| Quote: Old Feller "& having to fight off the ref as well as Burrow to get hold of the ball!!'"
Yeah, I was going to mention Burrow It would have been his fault had the try not been awarded for a very lax attempt at getting out of the way
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| Quote: Harrigan "You have proven to know little about the game of Rugby League though so I believe that makes my initial call of try deadset
Pft!
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| A large part of refereeing is about communicating with players on the move, managing the game so you don't have to keep stopping it to give penalties.
At the risk of being labelled xenophobic however, his English really doesn't seem to have improved from the time he came into SL. As a bare minimum, it shouldn't be too much to ask for match officials in a league where 13 of the 14 teams are staffed with predominantly English speaking players to have a good enough grasp of the language to communicate properly with the players.
The final moments of the play-off game at the JJB last year, where he seemed to be struggling to understand what both the TJ and the video referee were telling him, looked cringeworthy to the viewer IMO.
It's time to stop treating him like a charity case just so the RFL can wheel him out as a neutral ref for international games and judge him as they would any other match official coming through the ranks.
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| At least he keeps up with play, sometimes too much so!
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| Quote: tad rhino "this guy is a joke. he is no better than he was a couple of years back. the ptb, from both teams, was a joke and totally unpoliced. neither team were square all night, and the JJB 'try' was the most blatant double movement you will ever see. his signals were shocking. he was terrible, bloody awful'"
I personally thought his hopping on one leg on the goal-line during his warm up was well worth the entrance fee for comedy value! Referee - Poor, Slapstick comedian - Excellent. Moooooooooooooooooove!
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| M Allibert, the Jacques Tati of the refereeing world.
At least he's not bl**dy Marcel Morceau
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| Quote: Old Feller "M Allibert, the Jacques Tati of the refereeing world.
At least he's not bl**dy Marcel Morceau'"
More like Le Petomaine - stinking the place out with his mediocrity.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "More like Le Petomaine - stinking the place out with his mediocrity.'"
I beg to differ, Le Petomane's (sic) performances had to be stewarded by extra staff to loosen the corsets of women who were laughing so much that they were in danger of asphyxiation.
Mediocre he certainly was not.
But he was French, Joseph Pujol.
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| BTW speaking of know nowt s... Salford kicked the ball on the 5th with the whole of the team in front of the kicker pretty much. Webb caught it but the nearest Salford player was a good 25 metres away... "there all offside!!!!!" was the calls from behind me and then when they made the tackle these guys went mad! I just shook my head and cringed.
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| Quote: Old Feller "I beg to differ, Le Petomane's (sic) performances had to be stewarded by extra staff to loosen the corsets of women who were laughing so much that they were in danger of asphyxiation.
Mediocre he certainly was not.
But he was French, Joseph Pujol.'"
The Petomaine reference was the stinking, the mediocrity reference was entirely to M. Alibert.
Everyone knows farts are funny.
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