If I were Salford's coaching staff, I'd be practising pushing in the scrums...

All the experienced forwards need to lift their games. The pack as a whole has done naff all so far - Hull apart - even with most of our first choice props.

Good point about the pack BR, compare our current pack with that of Widnes in the late 80's, or even Leeds under Murray. I fully understand that we have got players to come back, but even then we don't have a real Enforcer type, which leads me to believe that opposition teams take our pack lightly (if you pardon the pun).

One of the best memories I have of the Murray era was the letter we received from Red Hall telling us we were being "too rough" with the opposition, and they didn't like it. What would I give for a return to that style of forward play in defence now...

Half of our first choice props have been missing the entire season.

What's wrong with playing kids?

I would rather see a couple of kids promoted for the props positions and lose, than see out of form players like Ali and Hauraki, who are not deserving of their places at the moment, playing out of position just to fill a gap.

I wholeheartedly agree. Kirke and probably Senior should step aside.

Would rather Smith at FB and Jones-Bishop covering r.centre though....Watkins at left centre of course. Leaves us short of a winger I know but again surely we have a kid that could be promoted ? Hardaker ?

Obviously our biggest problem is the pack and I would like to see Sinfield back there... with Webb at half back. If there are concerns about his tackling ability drop him too and get another kid in.

No Ambler ( stupid decision ) means I would DEF "blood" the two kids. Maybe start with Pitts as one of the props. Anything is better than Kirke.... And you never know these kids could be the finds of the season in this ... what many believe ( myself included ) should be a ... " tranisitional " year.

Well i seen singleton warming up before the Harlequins game.

Im hearing a rumour that Buderus is out with a broken nose.

Bloody softcock.

He broke it in the Warrington game. He did well to come back on....without that we'd probably have conceded 70 points.

Big chance for Hood maybe ? ( McShane at scrum half, Burrow on bench )

It's a good sentiment.

But it won't happen.

Pitts, a bit of a SL rookie, only got 5 minutes in his last match off the bench. That seems to be where we are with things.

If McShane don't get a game now when will he?

When he signs for Fev?

I think it's interesting that they're playing both McShane and Hood in the reserves. Are they thinking they might have dropped all of their eggs in one basket?

I can see why that move would appeal to McShane, I mean he would be classed as tall in Fev.