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OK, here goes.

1. Tait. Yes Tait. People forget who awful and disinterested he was at the end of his tenure when he couldn't get a game in the poorest 1st team Leeds have had for many a year. He stole a pay packet. Plus, you only ever offer Offiah the outside if your surname is Ettinghausen. Tait was no ET.
2. Basnett. A theme could be developing already with players who were greats at Widnes. Truly ordinary for the money.
3. Carl Hall. Bradford owned us for so long off the pitch as well as on it.
4. Rob Ackernan. He was a Welsh international once you know.
5. John Gallagher. Harsh on a truly nice bloke but he's here because of his rep, his pay packet and the truly ordinary displays he ended up giving from the wing as his Leeds career fizzled out.
6. Chris Vasey. Lovely hairdo.
7. David Cruikshank. Took over seamfully (not sure what the opposite to Seamlessly is) from Craig Coleman. Boy did the team improve........after he was sent off against Saints.
8. Peter Smith. Enough has been said and he won't be the last Peter
9. Mick Shaw. The precursor to the likes of Roby, without the skill, defensive abilities or distribution. Not to mention sending Lowes to Bradford.
10. Peter Tunks. Though long and hard about Sam Backo. Both arrived here because of their rep and failed, spectacularly to live up to it. I also thought "long and hard" might be fitting for Peter, allegedly
11. Mick Worrall. Dougie Laughton was a great judge of a player's ability, sometimes..
12. Ian Scott. I must've told you my takle of meeting him at the urinals in Mr Craigs?
13. Alan Rathbone. 12 minutes, a broken jaw and then porridge. Not the kind of porridge that would trouble his broken jaw either.

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Quote: G1 "OK, here goes.

1. Tait. Yes Tait. People forget who awful and disinterested he was at the end of his tenure when he couldn't get a game in the poorest 1st team Leeds have had for many a year. He stole a pay packet. Plus, you only ever offer Offiah the outside if your surname is Ettinghausen. Tait was no ET.
2. Basnett. A theme could be developing already with players who were greats at Widnes. Truly ordinary for the money.
3. Carl Hall. Bradford owned us for so long off the pitch as well as on it.
4. Rob Ackernan. He was a Welsh international once you know.
5. John Gallagher. Harsh on a truly nice bloke but he's here because of his rep, his pay packet and the truly ordinary displays he ended up giving from the wing as his Leeds career fizzled out.
6. Chris Vasey. Lovely hairdo.
7. David Cruikshank. Took over seamfully (not sure what the opposite to Seamlessly is) from Craig Coleman. Boy did the team improve........after he was sent off against Saints.
8. Peter Smith. Enough has been said and he won't be the last Peter
9. Mick Shaw. The precursor to the likes of Roby, without the skill, defensive abilities or distribution. Not to mention sending Lowes to Bradford.
10. Peter Tunks. Though long and hard about Sam Backo. Both arrived here because of their rep and failed, spectacularly to live up to it. I also thought "long and hard" might be fitting for Peter, allegedly
11. Mick Worrall. Dougie Laughton was a great judge of a player's ability, sometimes..
12. Ian Scott. I must've told you my takle of meeting him at the urinals in Mr Craigs?
13. Alan Rathbone. 12 minutes, a broken jaw and then porridge. Not the kind of porridge that would trouble his broken jaw either.'"



A truly shocking 13. I'd frankly forgotten about Cruikshank, but I didn't actually see him play due to work. Rathbone was an initial thought, but I thought at least one whole appearance would be my cutoff.

I did consider Tait, for all the reasons you put down and for the night I saw him in Fox's nightclub laughing and joking after we had been humiliated by Widnes in a CC semi at Central Park hours before.

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Quote: DHM "A truly shocking 13. I'd frankly forgotten about Cruikshank, but I didn't actually see him play due to work. Rathbone was an initial thought, but I thought at least one whole appearance would be my cutoff.

I did consider Tait, for all the reasons you put down and for the night I saw him in Fox's nightclub laughing and joking after we had been humiliated by Widnes in a CC semi at Central Park hours before.'"


Think that might be the Regal Trophy final at Central Park you're thinking of. I'm not sure Tait really deserves a place here, he had some very good games for Leeds, which I don't believe is true of some of the other candidates.

I genuinely can't remember a single thing David Cruickshank did for Leeds other than that sending off, which I remember came on the occasion of my 10th or 11th birthday (forget which because I can't remember what year it was). Splendid game.

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Allow me to provide my offering on the subject - you might notice a 1980s theme here, but it was a rich period for Leeds RLFC mediocrity

1. Tony Binder

2. Mark Massa
3. David Heselwood
4. Simon Irving
5. Chris Chapman

6. Carl Grigg
7. Andy Gregory (based purely on his Leeds performances)

8. Peter Smith
9. Russell Sowden
10. Gavin Jones
11. Gary Lord
12. Mark Brooke-Cowden (Gallagher may have been cheaper, but MBC equally failed to live up to reputation)
13. Nathan Picchi

It was difficult to leave out the likes of Dean Lawford, Gareth Morton and Mark Campbell (to name but a few).

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Quote: DHM "
I did consider Tait, for all the reasons you put down and for the night I saw him in Fox's nightclub laughing and joking after we had been humiliated by Widnes in a CC semi at Central Park hours before.'"
Whilst El Diablo is right that Tait did have some good games for us it is the attitude you allude to, and one he confess in his autobiography, and his attitude at the end of his career that cements his place for me.

Looking at these teams it makes you wonder about a certain poster waxing lyrical about the pre super league era and the pre super league teams of Leeds RLFC (not Rhinos obviously).

I tried hard to think of anyone who had donned the jersey from about 2003-now for inclusion but there simply isn't anyone which speaks volumes about how good things are right now.

PS, Divorty? Was that because he displaced the tache? Divo was a clever ball handler. You named a good/bad team but I don't like that selection.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Allow me to provide my offering on the subject '"
Some names I'd forgotten on there. Frankly, I'd rather it had stayed that way!

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Quote: G1 "PS, Divorty? Was that because he displaced the tache? Divo was a clever ball handler. You named a good/bad team but I don't like that selection.'"


Worked very, very well in a midfield triangle with Coleman and Heron when the latter moved to stand off as well.

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Chris Feather or Wayne McDonald....both huge and both as soft as poop! I can't seperate the two!

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Quote: West Cumbrian Rhino "Chris Feather or Wayne McDonald....both huge and both as soft as poop! I can't seperate the two!'"


I find a pallette knife and plenty of baby oil usually does the trick.

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Quote: El Diablo "Think that might be the Regal Trophy final at Central Park you're thinking of. '"


1993, Widnes 39, Leeds 4.

Regal trophy game was 1991/2 24-0, straight after it we signed Innes. Both games were at CP.

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Quote: G1 "PS, Divorty? Was that because he displaced the tache? Divo was a clever ball handler. You named a good/bad team but I don't like that selection.'"


Thought he was a pudding, maybe just me. Also I was looking for another Gary for the back row.

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Quote: DHM "Thought he was a pudding, maybe just me. Also I was looking for another Gary for the back row.'"


You could always have moved Mr.Hetherington back from hooker.

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Quote: DHM "1993, Widnes 39, Leeds 4.

Regal trophy game was 1991/2 24-0, straight after it we signed Innes. Both games were at CP.'"


I seem to somehow have managed to block that one from my memory. It probably merged into one horrible drubbing in my mind. I was quite traumatised by the Regal Trophy final.

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Mike Forshaw - the amount of times I saw him knock on was unbelievable

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Paul Prendiville-terrible winger.

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