This annoys me. They've made strong signings, we've resigned players who've spent a large part of the last two years injured/sliding in form.

Leeds have certainly been unlucky with injuries this year, particularly in the early part of the season. I guess you wouldn't really notice our injuries this year unless you'd been following the team. Cameron Phelps, Amos Roberts, Martin Gleeson, George Carmont, Thomas Leuluai, Stuart Fielden, Mark Riddell, Harrison Hansen, Sean O'Loughlin, Paul Prescott, Mike McIlorum, Phil Bailey, Paul Deacon, Eamon O'Carroll, Lee Mossop, and Darrell Goulding have all been out for significant periods this year.

I think outside of Graham, Perry and Puletua then Saints back still looks fairly ordinary to me. Obviously those 3 make it probably the best back in the league, but I think Wigans second row is the best in the league already and the addition of Hoffman will only make that better. Fielden and Coley have been in the tier or props just below Graham and Morley this year and in Lima we should have a more effective Feka.

The one area for me where Saints gain the most ground is hooker, Roby is quality, and how we deal with the loss of Riddell is going to make or break our season imo.

Overall, fairly even i'd say. Our 2nd row more than compensates for their front row.

With the addition of LMS also that allows Puletua to revert back to his natural Back-row position and he's as good as anyone in this league in the back-row.

That's probably true. It depends on which LMS turns up - sometimes he can be fantastic but other times goes missing. It also depends if Fielden and Coley can keep up their form from this year, rather than repeating 2009's mediocre form. And also if Jeff Lima will be Palea'aesina but with twice the on-field time!

hit the nail on the head. there are several people who have been supurb servants but are bloody lucky to be here next year. this is a professional club and sometimes you have to be ruthless

Good points and i guess it depends on who replaces Eastwood and IF Ambler and Burgess can step up another level next year.
I really hope that Watkins can step up if we don't sign a centre and that we don't have to over-rely on Senior next year i think if we can rotate him on a regular basis he could add something to our back-row and i also think we'll need to rotate Kylie ,jp and Buderus more next year.

Whatever you have to say. I can respect an opinion but your dead wrong re the sini kick. I was right in line with the kick It went between the sticks bang on.

I know, i'm talking about the pack as a whole. I just don't rate Wilkin or Flannery that highly.

Hoffman Tomkins
O'Loughlin

is a lot stronger than

Puletua Wilkin
Flannery

Imo at least.

If you have watched Lima you will know as some pies have said on your own board he has been crap for a big part of the season.

As have a lot of the storm side.

Surely we've more reason to be confident about these signings than usual as our coach knows each player extremely well, and the fact they are coming as a group should help them settle in.

It may have something to do with them not having anything to play for this season. We'll find out next year I guess.

Yep I can see what you are saying

I think the point your missing here is the seriousness of the injuries sustained and the number of weeks missing and also the key nature of the positions effected, not disputing all teams have injuries, just some are for a lot longer than others, the only one of note for wigan that I can remember is the amos roberts one ???, nearly every member of the first team have missed games, however most have been for long periods ???

Pleease tell me if I am wrong !!!!!