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Quote: rhinoms "Got to say Gotcha i think Roby has been very good when i've seen him this year and think his inclusion is deserved.'"


Not saying he has been anything but good, but Monaghan has been far better.

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "But do neither do all the press who voted!!! So to be fair, not sure what your point is unless you do not have Sky and or don't watch many Sky games. I see the majority of our games and the majority of Sky games...'"



Maybe not so much on here because this is the Leeds board but give the dream team thread on the VT a bit of time to get to 10 pages and see all the bitching about it being "Incorrect".

I've got nothing against "the dream team" and have no problem debating it but I just think some people take it far too seriously.

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Quote: Gotcha "Ben Harrison.'"


Bit of a myth I reckon, check out his stats v SOL and he'll get humped for workrate, line breaking and creativity I would imagine.

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To be fair, I get the impression from following the likes of Chris Irvine on Twitter that if they rules would allow them to pick a team and then have some sort of system to convert that into a Dream Team they would prefer that. The only choice they have is to pick Tomkins at stand-off because of the rules on voting, even though he has played his best rugby from FB, which means that Wellens ends up been at FB by being second choice to Tomkins and McGuire also got left out as a second choice to Tomkins!!!

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "This also means that Cunningham is unlikely to get MOS if the press don't rate him over Roby, so for me in order Richards, Graham/Morley (struggling to separate them) & Senior.'"


He's been a great player, but never MOS this year.

Fully agree with the suggestions above with the exception of Senior though - I don't think he's been of the same calibre as Morley for instance in 2010.

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "This also means that Cunningham is unlikely to get MOS if the press don't rate him over Roby, so for me in order Richards, Graham/Morley (struggling to separate them) & Senior.'"


I would have had Westwood down as MOS anyway personally, but failing that I think Graham deserves the accolade this year more than when he last won it. He's held that Saints pack on his own this year for the most part, and excelled whilst doing it.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Bit of a myth I reckon, check out his stats v SOL and he'll get humped for workrate, line breaking and creativity I would imagine.'"

And he's played a fair bit at prop.

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Quote: G1 "And he's played a fair bit at prop.'"


Very true.

I think SOL is the best of a fairly weak LF offering in SL (given Sinfield has been down on his usual standards). Fitzgibbon might have been as decent shout had he played there enough.

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Quote: rhinoms "but defensively like our team he's been below past standards by some distance.'"


Keith Senior, 35 tackles on Saturday with no misses.

Leeds have been playing him out of position all season that's all.

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Quote: rhinoms "i think he's over-rated but not surprised he's there this year because he's been good for them this year imo.'"
Sinfield is overated

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Quote: FearTheVee "Very true.

I think SOL is the best of a fairly weak LF offering in SL (given Sinfield has been down on his usual standards). Fitzgibbon might have been as decent shout had he played there enough.'"


Sinfield played quite a few games at 6 when Burrow was injured. I don't know if he's played more there than at loose or not

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Quote: tvoc "Keith Senior, 35 tackles on Saturday with no misses.

Leeds have been playing him out of position all season that's all.'"

And very good at it he was too!
Too late to move him permanently this year though imo.

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Quote: king warrior "Sinfield is overated'"

Same sh#t different season but a different crank now the pies have something to shout about.

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Quote: rhinoms "Same sh#t different season but a different crank now the pies have something to shout about.'"
Not really fella never have rated him tbh

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your right he's rubbish. in between captaining leeds to 5 grand finals, with 4 wins, in 6 years he's done nothing

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