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| Quote: spikerhino "Is she a classy bird this - PRETTY DAWN GOOD ???'"
Watching the game again??? Are you mad???? Bad enough first time round - lol
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| I was so upset with our defending. They totally let me down yesterday did Leeds. I was f-cking gutted. Don't give a sh-t now though.
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| Quote: BigM "Shocking and embarrassing, end of !!!!!!'"
Nah. I thought it was a fantastic game!
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| I think Wolves victory came even before kick-off. TS had obvioulsy decided that this game was going to be won on defense and hence the exclusion of Myler. This first 10-15 minutes were awesome and set the tone for the remainder of the game. As the game went on, the leeds attack looked short of ideas as Wolves snuffed out each attempt to breach the try line.
As much as people have mentioned missed offisde, missed forward passes, forward passes given that werent the key defining moments in the game can be summed up by "mathers holds him up", "outstanding defence on the line from Wolves", "superb tackle into touch by Westwood".
Against Saints and Wigan in previous round Leeds always looked in the game, yesterday it was all over with 20 minutes left (which i think is about the time that some leeds fans did as well )
(As far as the idiots in the corner. Drunken idiots who got so bored with who they came to watch they started looking for a fight!. Not going to bless them with the term "supporter" because they were in no way representation of all the true supporters at Wembley yesterday)
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| We were Shiote! Simple as.
I take nothing away from Warrington who turned up and played a full 80 minutes of competitive excellent rugby, with Lee Briers justifiably a worthy Lance Todd winner.
Our lot could have stayed on the coach and gone off on a sightseeing tour!
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Is yesterday the result of having a "get stuck in, up and at em" type coach, who can motivate players for some games but doesn't know how to produce a game plan, coming up against a technical coach who does all the detail and makes specific plans for specific players?
We were comprehensively outplayed, but even more comprehensively outcoached. All the same issues we have had for the last 3 years were evident, we gave away penalties, dropped far too much ball, and didn't have enough go forward or depth to our attack when we had the ball.
Very disappointing performance from a poorly coached team IMHO.
Well done Warrington, by far the better team, and thoroughly deserved to win.'"
Absolutely spot on analysis. In terms of standard and style of play, league position and number of points conceded it looks like this will be the worst season for 10 years, since the days of Dean Lance. What makes it far worse is that we have far better players (on paper) than we had then. I only hope that Brian McDermott can encourage McLennan to have a game plan, any sort of game plan, but I have doubts.
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| At least I can get back on the Dubai express on Tuesday and never have to think about soft cockery of the highest order from Ian Kirke in a CC Final, and don't get me started on the Gold Coast Titan plodder, I ain't surprised we have failed on the International stage with shat like that stealing a living in SL.
I wonder what those who thought Atkins wasn't the right option for Leeds think now!!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Nah. I thought it was a fantastic game!'"
Taking solace in other teams misfortune now. Oh dear, has it really come to that?
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| Quote: GCM1980 "Taking solace in other teams misfortune now. Oh dear, has it really come to that?
Oh, not solace. I was very happy. Warrington have played the best rugby league all season and so deserve to be winners. I thoroughly enjoyed their display of quality rugby and that it was at your expense made it extra special.
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| Our attacking play was at times, god awful. For most of the season it's been this way, we've played the same attacking stucture and the same plays for 3 or 4 seasons now, and it's been found out. For most of the year we've relied on individual brilliance to score points, when these individuals have an off day we're screwed!
Other than that, the apparent lack of desire got to me. Most people dreamt of playing in a challenge cup final as a kid I'm sure, they get there and seemingly don't care. I didn't get it, if you can't get pumped for a game like that then why bother?!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Nah. I thought it was a fantastic game!'"
Did u get ur money bk from the hotele and ticket u booked pre-semi btw
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| Quote: Abbott for England "Our attacking play was at times, god awful. For most of the season it's been this way, we've played the same attacking stucture and the same plays for 3 or 4 seasons now, and it's been found out. For most of the year we've relied on individual brilliance to score points, when these individuals have an off day we're screwed!
Other than that, the apparent lack of desire got to me. Most people dreamt of playing in a challenge cup final as a kid I'm sure, they get there and seemingly don't care. I didn't get it, if you can't get pumped for a game like that then why bother?!'"
TS knew what Leeds were bringing to the party, had a game plan in detail to expose Leeds weak errors and the players delivered it to the letter, compare that to the Leeds plan (if there was actually a plan other than turning up), it was in essence a coaching masterclass.
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| Quote: Andy R "
Eastwood made an impact in places and Delaney was strong all day.'"
Is that the same Brett Delaney that's blown hot & cold all season and who's defensive effort (i.e falling on his backside in a comedy fashion) was the route to Wire's first try ?
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| Wonder if the Pakistan Cricket fixer had anything to do with our display yesterday?!
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| All season we've been looking at the stats after each match, and saying "Jesus Christ, what would Leeds do without Peacock?". Now we've got our answer.
Kirke, Ablett, Clarkson, JJB are currently all pretty mediocre players (Clarkson will get better, JJB has got worse), but can all do a job for the team if they've got better forwards around them. What they can't do is do a decent job against a good team when *all four* are playing. That just makes a mediocre pack. Do Ali and JP offer more, and allow the players around them to play better? Of course they do. They're proven as our top-two big-game forwards. Peacock was a big loss, but where was Ali?
The non-performance of the backs and even Sinfield has to be put in context of mediocrity of the front five. McGuire, Burrow, Senior *tried* to create things, but with no go-forward or speed at the pay-the-ball to create space. I thought Burrow was very good in a way, obviously targetted on defence but not letting anyone down there. Smith also turned up ok.
Warrington were excellent, and Monaghan, Westwood and maybe Mathers could have challenged Briers for MoM. Even if Leeds were playing well, there would have been no stopping the two tries scored from Lee Briers kicks (well, we could have not given them field position), especially the second one which was outstanding skill by Hicks.
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