used to hate lovejoy me!!

Maybe Era of the Biff was referring to this........



McShane has been utilised in SL first team rugby the past two seasons. Is it unreasonable to hypothesize that had we not signed Buderus Mclennan could've still used his 2 hooker system, McShane would be further along in his development, the club will have saved an awful lot of £££ and, perhaps most importantly, the club could've used the quota space being taken by Buderus and strengthened elsewhere.

Buderus contributed virtually nothing last year and we did not miss him at all after his injury. He's been up and down this season. I am astonished at how star struck some of our fans are with him.

Are you really G? I'm not.

You think some are biased towards Buderus. Others might say you're biased against him.

Buderus' class cannot be denied.

However you might be right in your analysis with regards to McShane....so why do [iyou[/i think the club actually signed him ?? Be honest.

Quote: G1 "the club will have saved an awful lot of £££ and, perhaps most importantly, the club could've used the quota space being taken by Buderus and strengthened elsewhere.'" The quota was set at 8 for the 2009 season www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=346. Leeds, including Buderus and Eastwood, had a total of 6 overseas trained (and I presume a number of those would have been candidates to be removed from the 'quota' should the players involved wished to do so.) Where did Buderus' signing put pressure on Leeds' recruitment in relation to the existing quota spots available?

Quote: G1 "the club will have saved an awful lot of £££ and, perhaps most importantly, the club could've used the quota space being taken by Buderus and strengthened elsewhere.'" The quota was set at 8 for the 2009 season www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=346. Leeds, including Buderus and Eastwood, had a total of 6 overseas trained (and I presume a number of those would have been candidates to be removed from the 'quota' should the players involved wished to do so.) Where did Buderus' signing put pressure on Leeds' recruitment in relation to the existing quota spots available?

Erm, because he took up a quota spot.

These are the same fans who dont see the true value of Bailey, Ablett etc....

I'm sure you can't have failed to notice how the poster you're replying to has just suggested Leeds perhaps should have used the quota space taken by Buderus to sign (presumably) another quota player.



Where was there any pressure on Leeds not allocating one of the number of available quota places to Buderus?

Wasn't it 'perhaps most importantly' your strongest objection to his signing?

Hopefully, we should hear this week if Buderus is signing on for another year. Now that will put a smile on our faces! Something the antiquated end of the pier routine of the Tweedles has singularly failed to do.

Where does he say others are biased towards him?

It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that we probably would have gone out and bought somebody else to have played hooker instead. Considering the club made the statement at the time of saying we wanted two first choice hookers, and that McShane wasn't ready at that time.

But I don't think that fits the agenda does it.



That would be in your opinion though Gareth, yours and the poor troll.

But to most posters who don't go with an agenda he won at least 4 matches for us last season, matches we would not have won without his influence. Could have mage a huge difference in finishing top of league or not.

Which ones were they then Snizey wizey?

McShane was injured for much of last season, something you can't really hold against DB, or those who signed/played him.

You're right that we didn't miss him after he got injured, that's because we had a well balanced squad with 2 top quality hookers.

Most posters have already been through this plenty of times, it gets boring. Why should anyone have to repeat things to satisfy your poor fishing trips?

To jump in on the Buderus/McShane comments - TBH I have jumped to the end of this thread before it started to break down into a typical school boy thread...my opinion...numpty...no nowt about league...blah, blah, blah...

For me, I was chuffed when Leeds signed Buderus as I thought he would be another Bai - experienced (read old), but would bring a lot to the team. BUT he has been expensive and he has been injured a lot. Therefore for me, and for want of a better term, I think he has become a luxury player - similar to Brent Tate at Vodafone Warriors over in NZ (don't get me started on centres) - which no top flight league team can afford these days - as much due to the salary cap as to player development.