And if he doesn't have a ring on his finger he has to do far more than just that.

I said earlier in the season that Delaney was Chris McKenna with better hands.

Another display in difficult conditions where he played like an extra back-rower and tackled anything that came his way. He's not going to stand up his opposite number and race 80 yards for a try, but he's solid and effective.

And would compliment last years Keith Senior perfectly.

We're just waiting on the better hands.

Both solid as a rock.

McKenna was under-rated I thought. A technically superb tackler. May not have shown off too much flare but in defence he was always a treat to watch. Text book. He'd hit hard in the tackle, really made the most of the tackling opportunity. Rather than tackling just to tackle, if you know what I mean.

I've yet to catch McLennan making the same comments during a live Sky game about Delaney's passing as Darryl Powell did about McKenna's

Delaney's a solid centre. I know its stating the obvious but really we shouldn't need to import 'solid' players at all.

England shouldn't need to give 'no marks' an England debut just because they understudy a great player in the NRL either but it's almost certainly going to happen on Saturday.

I get your point, doesn't say a lot for the state of the game over here does it? But look at donald and kylie who have both shined over here. If delaney can kick on from his nrl career like those 2 did then he will be a real belter. Imo he had more going for him as a player before he left the nrl than those 2. appart from his brain fart on the first tackle 15 meters out with 5 mins to go against the pies in the cup I've been impressed with delaney.

Which is the point I was trying to make!

Has Donald "kicked on"? Wasn't he the leading try-scorer in the NRL in the season before he announced he was moving to Leeds?

I've a feeling you might change your mind on that one shortly, he's far from being a 'no mark'.

Certainly didn't look out of place against the Dogs with a try and three goals.

He's still a bit short of the finished article IMO and needs to get himself established as a first choice somewhere to kick on, but he's no worse than any of England's other mediocre options at full-back

I might and I look forward to seeing him prove his selection is justified. Earning International caps should be the pinnacle of the sport.

thought that some time ago but couldnt find any stats to back it up?