I would suggest the police presence at Leeds v Hull compared to police presence at any other game suggest the police see Hull's travelling support as the worst

Leeds fans are definately no angels though

Or, more likely, that a Leeds vs Hull fixture carries a higher risk.

That's not he same thing as Hull's away fans are worse.

In my opinion a Leeds and Hull fixture attracts plenty of bell ends from both cities, but said bell ends quite probably don't attend many other fixtures.

Certainly games at the well segregated KC seem to bring out the worst in the "Barmy Army", who wouldn't consider behaving in the same way towards home fans at most other grounds where they don't have the same protection.

I think the issue with the Leeds v Hull FC and the Hull FC v Leeds fixtures, as Puig has pointed out, is that it attracts a high 'bell-end' quotient, more so (I would suggest) then any other fixture in SL. I think that has to do with the 'bell-ends' who would also see themselves as Leeds United and Hull City supporters (because 95% of the support of both those clubs think they are also bell-ends and not supporters).

This is therefore their only current regular opportunity to have a 'bell-end' day out in each other cities and try to out 'bell-end' each other.

Hull, like most other port town/cities in the UK, does seem to have a very slightly higher 'bell-end' quotient than other towns/cities and suspect this is just the historic demographic nature of towns/cities that are ports.

I also think that the KC, being a multi-use stadium suffers from the rules required of it by the FA. As such, although we are not formally segregated (at this or any other ground) we do naturally segregate ourselves. At other grounds this segregation is informally applied and there is no physical barrier in the stadium layout that has been specifically designed as such. At the KC there is a designed barrier between the away fans end and the rest of the ground. Unfortunately, because we don't then formally segregate, the small number of Hull 'bell-ends' position themselves purposely as close to that barrier as possible. I think that brings out the worst in our fans as a whole, as well as the 'bell-ends', and hence the issue with this fixture in general.

I am not a fan of unreserved seating at matches,it's just asking for problems in my opinion and it sounds like there were many last friday. Each seat and ticket have an aisle and seat number and everyone should be told to sit in that seat and that seat only. Problem solved.

doesnt work at elland road...

It wasn't the black and whites that smashed the windows on our coach two seasons ago . It was the other fishy ones .
It was , however , the B&Ws that we caught bullying a 63 yr old man and his grandson in the alley at the back of West Terrace same season . Doubt if those 'fans' will return to HQ after that Ten or so 18/19 yr olds (guessing ages) picking on an old grandad and his lil lad . We couldn't stand by and watch now could we .
Same goes for the Rhinos 'fans' having a go at a large (mainly junior) group of Wigan fans outside Suporters club last year . I just walked in the middle and told the Leeds 'fans' to shut the fk up .

Hooligans everywhere you look .
Keep the banter , Lose the fisticuffs .

You must have the best collection of Bongo ever.

Its mainly churn related, obviously, but I've sampled a few other genres.

Thanks for the info.

Sorry to bother you but where was all the away fans in the ground?
Which is the best place to get tickets for if you are a away fan?
Also on there website you can get family ticket really cheap, but is the family section away from the atmosphere etc?
Thanks Andy

The Yale Stand appears to be the designated away stand. I bought mine from the Wrexham FC website where you can even pick your seat but it means diddly when you get there unless they've changed their ways. I selected seats in the Yale Stand Centre/Upper but ended up pitchside near the corner flag. Still a good day out though!

I am not a vigilante by any means . I am more than able to take care of myself of course , I just can't abide bullies . It ain't in my nature to stand by or walk away .
Be thankful for people like me . One of these days it might be you in trouble . Would you want me to walk away ?