I don't see where people are getting this false notion of "hope" from. The convicts had won the game after try 3 and after that they switched off. When they need to play we have no answer for them. If we somehow make the final it willl be a rout.

We have some capable players but we just don't play like a team.

There isn't a molecule of Australian mentality that would accept being nilled and conceding 16 points in a second half. If England had had as much fortunate ball bounces as the Aussies had in the first half we could be looking at the most embarassing defeat in Aussie test history.

But can the Aussies play for the full eighty?

They dont need to

Thought sinfield was class in the second half today!

Sinfield looked slow in the first half but had a much improved second.

IMO Super league backs are too flat and dont create the running angles , and backing up like the Aussies.

hate to say it but your kev played well some daft balls but never stopped trying and think paid of for him.

If you think ANY aussie team would switch off when they had the chance to put 50+ on an england team at home then yer pretty naive imo mate.
In the 2nd half we cut out the mistakes and played to some kind of structure and did well off the back of a good go forward and i have to admit at H/T i thought it was gonna be 50+ but credit to the team they dug in and regained some pride.

I thought Sinfield had an excellent game - unlike McGuire who had a shocker - the forwards as a whole can hold their head up.

Although Gareth doesn't agree - today's game showed the importance of quality centres - they had them we didn't. The sooner we can produce two serious centres the sooner we will give the Aussies something to think about

Why do you hate to say it? He was playing for England, for fecks sake.

doesn't matter against us because they don't need 80 mins to get a game locked up. You call it as you see it minus blinkers. Surely that call says once again as a team we are simply not on their level. They are too consistent.

The Kiwis beat them by having some consistency themselves and staying in range all game, enthusiastic tough defence and top it off by raising the intensity a couple of times a game, which has tipped it in their favour recently.

England neither play as a team, play tough and compete or show consistency.

Not because he plays for Leeds just never rated him did not think he was good enough.

You hate to acknowledge good performances in the national shirt, just because of who they play for at club level?

Seriously?

Edit - misread sorry. But then it changes to "you hate to acknowledge a good performance for England, just because you didn't rate them?"

From a Saints fan - I though Sinfield played very well today.

McGuire on the other hand was HOPELESS!!!

Must be Eastmond & Tompkins at half back next week.

The pack was outstanding and in the 2nd half even the backs who have been knocked were very good.

Now you're really starting to embarrass yourself.