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Kirke reminds me of big Wayne Mac but not as good, although Kirke is considerably better looking, although I aren't sure if that played a part in the his new contract.

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Quote: thebloodbath "Let's not under-play the significance of Ian Kirke.

2 Grand Final rings, and he had Wilkin in his pocket in both of those.

He's not as good as JP, but after JP I'd say he's the next best front rower. In terms of ability and form he's impressed me more than Kylie, Bailey and Burgees this season.

And he plays well at second row on the fringes.

For me he is a player who is still developing, he's adding attacking plays to his game, we've seen numerous offloads and breaks from him this season. I believe he's learnt a hell of a lot from JP. Why not learn from the best?

Ultimately his size is his main tool. When driving he attracts 2/3 players every drive, with the aim to get a quick play the ball. He does this quite effectively.

I agree - he may not be the showmaker of the team - but is consistent and hardworking & gives his all - much better than a certain Mr Bailey - glad Kirky's got a further 2 years - can only get better IMO

In every great team you need a core backbone, and Kirke is part of that. He does his job in a proffesional manner. And the big games seem to attract his solidness, so very worthwhile. Good squad player? No, he's more than that. Good member of our 17? Yes. The benefit of Kirke seems missing on some, but I see it, and so do the coaches. And he has the Grand Final rings to back it up.'"


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Quote: Richie Ramrod "Kirke reminds me of big Wayne Mac but not as good, although Kirke is considerably better looking, although I aren't sure if that played a part in the his new contract.'"


I'd second that - just behind Hall icon_lol.gif -

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A much better signing than Kyle.

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Quote: Andy Gilder ""What Kirke is though right now is a first choice selected 13 player. He is in the team week in week out now. On that basis IMO and it appears others, he is not good enough for that role"

If that doesn't mean that you don't think he's good enough to be in the 17 week in, week out then what does it mean?

Honestly, knitting fooking fog again...'"


Well there is no point arguing further then is there. If somebody cant tell the difference between 13 players and 17, its a no gamer.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "A much better signing than Kyle.'"


Yeah well aparently his day time show, talking to chavs ITV1, is going well. icon_wink.gif

You win some you lose some.....

Or in your case, you win some, you lose more. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: finglas "Disagree with that. He is a first choice 17 player but not a first choice 13.
The reason he is first choice 17 is because of the ptoblem in bringing Eastwood over and the consequential lightness of the pack.

IMO heis behind Peacock, Leuluai and Bailey at prop (about level with Burgess) and behing JJB, Ablett and Ali in the 2nd Row. If Eastwood had been here he would have struggled to make the matchday 17.'"


Not sure I agree with that. He didn't struggle to get into the 17 with Ellis in the team

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Quote: DISA "Well there is no point arguing further then is there. If somebody cant tell the difference between 13 players and 17, its a no gamer.'"


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Says the man who thinks there's a huge distinction in whether someone starts or comes off the bench in their value to the squad.

ROFL

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IMO Kirke is an average squad player. but still a decent signing to make as it is a 20 man game.

For me he plays very little game time with JJB, JP etc almost able to play a full game. when he does start i very rarely notice him apart from an occasional run. To say the little game time he plays you would think he would make a bigger impact.

Although i think he has improved over the last couple of years probably because he is now training full time having previously been part time.

possibly more to come he does not infuriate me as he used to!

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Just of the top of my head here is a list of current players that whilst being out of form some f***wits on here have decided that we should not renew a contract or get rid instantly

Burrow
Senior
JJB
Sinfield
Bailey
Donald
Ablett
Lautiiti
Kylie
McGuire
Kirke
Diskin
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I think only Webb & Peacock have been the lucky ones

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Quote: leicester_rhino "Not sure I agree with that. He didn't struggle to get into the 17 with Ellis in the team'"
That was when we tended to use 2 props and 2 backroweers on the bench because we only had one hooker. Ablett/Ellis were also filling in at right centre. I'm not knocking Kirke just questioning DISA's assertion that he is currently a first 13 choice player which IMO he isn't.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "I think only Webb & Peacock have been the lucky ones'"


Webb's had some criticism, but the majority of that was acknowledged to be part of his return to first team action after a bad injury.

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Quote: Lord_Percy "Webb's had some criticism, but the majority of that was acknowledged to be part of his return to first team action after a bad injury.'"


So that just leaves JP, did he get some stick during 2006?

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Quote: Tony Soprano "So that just leaves JP, did he get some stick during 2006?'"
Yes, there were many on here disgruntled that he wasn't as good as when he was at bradford when he's simply done the same as he always has, wherever he's been.

Our fans are easily the least knowledgeable in the league, or certainly the proportion of them that post on here are.

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Quote: finglas "That was when we tended to use 2 props and 2 backroweers on the bench because we only had one hooker. Ablett/Ellis were also filling in at right centre. I'm not knocking Kirke just questioning DISA's assertion that he is currently a first 13 choice player which IMO he isn't.'"


Fair point.

My take on it is that you can't have an international in each position, and he give a certain level of effort and skill, but at low cost. It used to be the role of JJB, but he has now progressed to one of the best 2nd rows in this country, and will be on a fair whack more now.

A decent re-sign. Just hope that we have some new faces in the pipeline, as most of the other clubs are getting their signings sorted for next year too. I don't want us to miss out

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