after eastwood signed we were told there was space for a signing. there were plenty available in the off season,when the squad should have been sorted

Like who?

few of the aussie clubs are feeling the pinch this season (cronulla, souths now they have signed crocker) & might be happy to release players if they can't realisticaly reach the play offs.

the club would have had a full list of OOC players halfway through last season. i don't have that at my fingertips

That's the point here. Fans know (me included) next to nothing, it's not their place to know. Club CEO's on the other hand will be well aware of player's availability and it's their job to maintain (and where possible) improve the existing squad at any given time, not least during the close season when ideally these matters should be taken care of.

Would you rather have money left unspent gathering dust in the bank or extra players available for selection to the under fire coach.

If you're going to fantasize about someone playing for Leeds that is unlikely to happen I am sure you can find better w@nking material than Shenton.

How can you post the very salient reasons that the CEO can't sign him yet criticise the CEO for not signing him?

If the right centre has been a problem its' been since Chev's departure because if it was a problem then Toopi was most certainly not the solution. Unless the solution is being rightly displaced by Gibson then missing 75% of a season with injury.

Well maybe GH-BM didn't rate or think the available players were right for the club?

Indeed.........or they have faith in the players coming through the ranks and having invested so heavily in the youth set up and enjoyed such success from it, feel entitled to rely upon it.

I haven't criticised the CEO for the non-signing of Shenton. I have expressed an opinion that Shenton would strengthen the current Leeds squad if he was available.



Toopi took time to settle at Leeds. The latter part of 2007 and 2008 (when available) his form was pretty good and Gibson far from being in a position to challenge for the spot was permanently on the treatment table. Leeds haven't had a settled right centre since Toopi's injury V Melbourne with Ablett coming closest to claiming it.



Only time will tell if the squad assembled is up to defending their SL title.

If they have such faith in the youth set up why did they see the need to target Pritchard, Eastwood and Soliola in the off season?

What isn't in question is that the squad assembled has already failed to defend their WCC title, went out of the Challenge Cup at the first hurdle at home, lost V Salford for the first time in 16 years (at home to them for the first time in 32 years) and lost away at Odsal becoming the only Bradford opponent to do so in 2009 in the process.

After reading all the posts on this subject. It seems to me that tvoc is the only one writing perceptive, sensible opinions, in marked contrast to the Hetherington cheer leaders who are ably led by G1.

So the success GH has produced at our club including saving us from being bankrupt,building the acadamy,carnegie stand etc isn't worth supporting????????????
Tvoc has his view's and fair play he does stand by them and argue his case but that doesn't mean my and anyone else who are backing the ceo and willing to keep faith in this squad are wrong!!

heard westerman is on his way to us.

The latter part of 2007 he was solid, no more. He was fortunate that the player you see as not being good enough for Leeds got injured so he could have his place back.

Just what did Toopi do in the latter part of 2008 other than be injured? Gibson was joined on that treatment table for most of 2008 by Toopi.

Leeds haven't had a settled right since Chev Walker.



Indeed.

....and having failed to land them for various reasons they have faith in their youth set up rather than simply sign someone, anyone who wasn't even on their agenda in the first place.

You don't defend a WCC because if you don't win the championship you don;'t get the opportunity. You compete for a fresh one each year.

This assembled squad have won the same number of Challenge Cups as every squad for the last ten years.

Losses in regular league games are an irrelevance and will be even more so if this squad makes history in Oct.

I read Fox had signed a new three year deal with Hull KR.

And whats not to cheer Les?

You've watched Leeds for some time. Have any of those great players, great teams ever achieved what the club have under GH's stewardship?

Why on earth would anyone with any sense not enjoy this halcyon period in the great club?