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Quote: Dave Lister "Classic knee-jerker.

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So all the other points are valid you don't agree with one so I should stop posting - thanks - when I post as much diatribe as you I will consider refraining from posting - maybe you should also consider that?

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "His mistakes put us in a position where we could have lost the game too
Aside from that you're right to criticise his awful knock on and his poor play for Dixon's try.

Not so sure McGuire was "immense" but won't criticise a half back in those conditions (though he was at fault for cas' first try with an awful ball from dummy half).

Burgess should be dropped for Bailey. Truly awful ball retention.

Discipline is, frankly, becoming beyond a joke and if McLennan is unable to sort it our soon it will be the death of us. Mr Hetherington needs to have a serious word in the coaches ear about this failing especially as the coach himself identified it before the Saints cup game and seems incapable of doing anything about it.

Pleased with the defensive effort but thought we were awful ball in hand. Though the conditions didn't help they didn't hinder Cas as much. Cas had a much better kicking game, by some distance.

Oh, and Shenton didn't look any great shakes up against Ablett but nonetheless he did ingratiate himself to me by handing us the win.

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "So all the other points are valid you don't agree with one so I should stop posting - thanks - when I post as much diatribe as you I will consider refraining from posting - maybe you should also consider that?'"


It was meant to be ironic...

But a s G1 has pointed out, your apparent point is so ridiculous, then yes, please cease.

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In Senior's defence, I'm not sure why Leeds were determined to fling the ball out to him in such conditions when taking a tap on their 20.

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Quote: Dave Lister "In Senior's defence, I'm not sure why Leeds were determined to fling the ball out to him in such conditions when taking a tap on their 20.'"


Pretty obvious really two minutes to go they were not making any headway him and Hall seemed the only outlet at the time given that both Ablett and Smith looked either injured or shattered

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Quote: G1 "Discipline is, frankly, becoming beyond a joke and if McLennan is unable to sort it our soon it will be the death of us. Mr Hetherington needs to have a serious word in the coaches ear about this failing especially as the coach himself identified it before the Saints cup game and seems incapable of doing anything about it.'"


A huge issue as you say, just watching the replay and Tony Smith keeps stating the obvious when pointing out the negative effects in terms of field position and tries conceded.

tvoc will no doubt pop along with the stats on penalty counts, I've lost count again, suffice to say we are still losing the majority of penalty counts.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Maverick Rhino "A huge issue as you say, just watching the replay and Tony Smith keeps stating the obvious when pointing out the negative effects in terms of field position and tries conceded.

tvoc will no doubt pop along with the stats on penalty counts, I've lost count again, suffice to say we are still losing the majority of penalty counts.'"
I get more furious every week about this. Especially when Mclennan has publicly stated he's aware of it and he's going to (when?) do something about it.

It appears he is unable.

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Quote: G1 "Why on earth focus on what he could have done and not what he did do?

Aside from that you're right to criticise his awful knock on and his poor play for Dixon's try.

Not so sure McGuire was "immense" but won't criticise a half back in those conditions (though he was at fault for cas' first try with an awful ball from dummy half).

Burgess should be dropped for Bailey. Truly awful ball retention.

Discipline is, frankly, becoming beyond a joke and if McLennan is unable to sort it our soon it will be the death of us. Mr Hetherington needs to have a serious word in the coaches ear about this failing especially as the coach himself identified it before the Saints cup game and seems incapable of doing anything about it.

Pleased with the defensive effort but thought we were awful ball in hand. Though the conditions didn't help they didn't hinder Cas as much. Cas had a much better kicking game, by some distance.

Oh, and Shenton didn't look any great shakes up against Ablett but nonetheless he did ingratiate himself to me by handing us the win.'"


Did you go to the game Gareth the conditions were appalling Cas had so much ball in the first half and managed one try from a dropped ball by Hall and one from a really bad defensive play from Senior not sure what else they did with the ball tbh. We had some players who simply could not adjust their play to the conditions Webb never looked like catching a high ball and Burgess never looked like keeping hold of one

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Did you go to the game Gareth the conditions were appalling Cas had so much ball in the first half and managed one try from a dropped ball by Hall and one from a really bad defensive play from Senior not sure what else they did with the ball tbh. We had some players who simply could not adjust their play to the conditions Webb never looked like catching a high ball and Burgess never looked like keeping hold of one'"
No I watched on telly. It looked V bad. I thought the only try where they opened us up was the Chase one.

Psst, Hall's dropped ball was a really bad pass from McGuire at dummy half, behind him and over his shoulder.

I thought Cas handled the conditions much, much better than us part of which was down to their superior kicking game. Sherwin and Chase were very good for them.

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Quote: Maverick Rhino "tvoc will no doubt pop along with the stats on penalty counts, I've lost count again, suffice to say we are still losing the majority of penalty counts.'"


First half: Castleford 7 (consecutive) Leeds 2

Second half: Castleford 1 , Leeds 4

Exit poll data. Margin of error +/- 3%

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One of best away days i have been on.
Rain was fantastic and to the lads who took there tops off Well Done to you.

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Quote: tvoc "First half

Another one lost then ... what's the ratio for the season so far? Not pretty reading I am sure.

It really is a key problem and the coach needs to get it fixed.

To be fair there appeared to be evidence at Huddersfield (I think) of a specific effort to eliminate dissent as all the players were making a point of accepting decisions calmly and quietly. That seems to have been a flash in the pan as its creeping back in; and tonight had a dissent penalty and McGuire waving his arms around and shouting at the referee.

It appears the team still need to remove the coaches emotion from their mindset when they cross the white line.

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Leeds:

15 - 1st grade fixtures (All Comps)

Penalty Counts Won : 5
Penalty Counts Lost : 8
Penalty Counts Shared 2

Total Penalties For : 111
Total Penalties Against : 129

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Quote: G1 "

Discipline is, frankly, becoming beyond a joke and if McLennan is unable to sort it our soon it will be the death of us. Mr Hetherington needs to have a serious word in the coaches ear about this failing especially as the coach himself identified it before the Saints cup game and seems incapable of doing anything about it.

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Discipline really does need sorting. I don't understand why it hasn't been by now. And you're right it will cost us big time if it isn't addressed soon.

On the telly the conditions looked atrocious - far worse than last years GF. Summer rugby icon_smile.gif

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I fell asleep just before half time (was watching the reply) and from what I saw of him in the first half, I thought senior did well.

How are Burrow and Donald doing? Burrow looked in a lot of pain

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