Shush! It's just great to see substander back to it's old ways after two defeats!

It already has, and has caused Hudderfield Giants to be replaced by the something else entirely different to those Giants we have known all these years.

Not to mention Salford and Cas. I bet the RFL didn't trhink it's Franchise system would work so well so soon.

No replacement for Ellis, No cover for the missing Eastwood, no imrovement on last years squad - Out of the Cup

My hope was that the Franchise system and limits on none federation players would help raise the standard of the game. It doesn't seem to be working yet. Although that probably does have to be a longer term objective.

Well if we end up having a poor season I will expect Eccleshill to start feeding us unrest in the camp,how the players can't stand the coach,rumours of players wanting to go and play in Aus mainly to get away from the coach

Those overseas limits were watered down amid furious back pedalling of the RFL under the scrutiny of employment lawyers but the RFL's heart is at least in the right place.

Ah yes the old English Clubs goals at odds with the governing bodies goals for the sport. That will never change no matter what the sport.

The club's (all clubs, not just Leeds and not just RL) heart is in the right place as well as long as it affects other clubs ànd not themselves.

Will all be right again in the world if Leeds upset the form book and beat Huddersfield? Probably!!

This forum has more experts in 'How to run and coach a Super League team' than all the other forums put together!!

Not many have ever played though....

Well the limit on overseas trained for this season was always going to be eight and I can only really think of Wigan exceeding that with Roberts, Carmont, Richards, Smith, Leuluai, Riddell, Palea'aesina, Bailey, Phelps and Hansen although not sure on Hansen's position in this regard.

Next year it's down to six though + any exemptions still with the clubs.

I can't believe the amount of doomsayers on this board. We hav lost a few games and some people believe this means we will be the worst team in the league! You may argue that because we haven't recruited well that that's the reason for this slump. But surely if most players have stayed and the squad is basically the same it is the same side that has won back to back titles! How could the same players suddenly become so bad in such little time?

Maybe a couple of signings would freshen us up but they won't make huge differences.

One last thing maybe because so many players have started in the same positions week in week out they can play badly and will always be on the team sheet for next week. This is you're Sinfield,burrow,mguire,senior,Webb,donald

Point me to one poster that has claimed that.

Im not quoting that people have actually said that but some on the posts have been implying things along that line