Cool, open season on anyone below five feet ten.

Why should tacklers have to bother lowing their arms when they can just swing them at shoulder height and hit whatever part of the body or head happens to be at that level?

if you are 5ft 10 then don't run into people leading with your head?

I don't know if you've noticed, but the human head does tend to be in a fairly fixed position atop the shoulders. It doesn't move from there unless forcibly assisted.

The duty of care lies with the tackler to ensure he makes contact below the neck.

Robbie Burrow take note!

I'm really having a problem here. If you go into a tackle (the expression means making a movementnt to-wards the tackled player) then of course you should not contact the head. However if a player insists on running into you and you DO NOT MOVE then the responsiblity must be on the tacklee (is that a word?) . If bailey had swung an arm or raised an elbow then yes he would be at fault seeing as he did neither then I'm sorry but no sympath.

Right, so I take the ball up at first receiver and run straight at you. It's my responsibility as the ball carrier to ensure that I put my head in a place where you can't hit it if you stand still?

I'm sorry, but that's ludicrous.

he tried to but it just came out as "mmmmmmm hmmmmmm hmmmmm mmmmmmm hmmmmm".

His jaw is wired.

tez said its the ball carrying forwards choice what line he runs. does he step left? does he step right, does he just run the line. tez said he thought maurie tried to run right over bailey and targeted bailey with his run. bailey stood his ground didnt jump up turned to the side and used his shoulder to stop the runner which is all within the laws of the game. bailey took up the challenge maurie laid down with his run and mauire can off second best. tez said what should bailey have done? got out of the way or made a submisive tackle. its a tough game and all the players no the score if your flying in at full pelt.

ps i dont think your from cronulla

Yes. I agree that is ludicrous. My point is that Bailey didn't do anything IMO that was intentional, reckless or careless. It was an accident that he got hit in the head. Just like when Burrow got hit in the head in the same game.

yes, you have a duty of care to protect yourself,

maurie didnt brace himself for impact, thats his problem

it cant be a high tackle when your arms are by your side, thats just crazy,

i would also add with his feet also planted

but shouldnt we count the shoulder as part of the arm, as you can only takle with your arms?

bailey didnt do anything wrong. but i think the rules should be altered before burrows loses his head to someone steaming in. if we say you can make a tackle as high as you want if your arms are by your side we're gonna see all kinds of madness...

I don't think it is, the defender could stand there on side with his eyes closed and not move a muscle, how on earth could he be doing anything wrong?

IMO nobody did anything wrong, it's the most physical of physical sports and sometimes these things happen.

That is the inherent danger with the laws as they stand and Potter is right to point it out.

In my opinion it's probably time for the shoulder only challenge to be outlawed.

i dont know if it shold be outlawed, but the responsibility should be with the defender for where it lands and it should be deamed violent conduct if you land someone one in the chops