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Clickbait title - but it has managed to get you the attention you obviously crave.

Wow, so you're giving up your season ticket, will it affect me?, not a jot. Do I care?, again not a jot. Will anyone beg you to reconsider? I highly doubt it. Your post, like this reply is pretty senseless really, but have fun in whatever you choose to do with your time whilst not watching the Rhinos next season.

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The sport as a whole is in far better shape in some ways than the 80s/90s. Crowds, profile etc were a joke through the 60s and 70s and the early 80s, and if we're honest, the standard of play was often laughably bad compared to today, even if entertaining to watch. Our crowds didn't really peak until the Murray era and early 2000s. Personally I think the game has become less entertaining, but in terms of physicality and technical ability players are a long way ahead of where they were even 20 years ago.

There's also a clear tendency to link your own club's performance to the game as a whole. I doubt KR fans think now is the worst time ever, or Salford, or Leigh. Lots of people on here talk about 2005 as the golden season in terms of performances. Yet we AVERAGED 40 points a game across the whole season and topped 50 points ten times. That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality in the rest of the competition. It sucked. Leeds fans loved it, but the gap between top and middle was enormous, let alone bottom.

SL has let itself become too small no doubt to keep the cash among fewer clubs. That's led to loop fixtures and other nonsense, and the league itself would be better with 14 teams, but I'm not sure the talent exists to open it up. Although history suggests people don't mind watching their team put big scores on rubbish teams every now and then.

I do think the game needs to find a way forward that lets it grow in a sustainable way. But frankly old timers (I've been around 40 years plus) whinging should be the last people anyone listens to.

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The game will never, ever change.

You either accept that and keep attending games or you quit and don't attend games anymore.

RL will never change, it's a conversation I'm sure we've all had throughout our lives, how amateur this sport is. And has anything really changed? Barely anything at all.

Accept it or move on.

Your post is very similar to being in a pub and a complete stranger you've never met tapping you on the shoulder to tell you they're leaving.

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Quote: Once were Loiners "The sport as a whole is in far better shape in some ways than the 80s/90s. Crowds, profile etc were a joke through the 60s and 70s and the early 80s, and if we're honest, the standard of play was often laughably bad compared to today, even if entertaining to watch. Our crowds didn't really peak until the Murray era and early 2000s. Personally I think the game has become less entertaining, but in terms of physicality and technical ability players are a long way ahead of where they were even 20 years ago.

There's also a clear tendency to link your own club's performance to the game as a whole. I doubt KR fans think now is the worst time ever, or Salford, or Leigh. Lots of people on here talk about 2005 as the golden season in terms of performances. Yet we AVERAGED 40 points a game across the whole season and topped 50 points ten times. That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality in the rest of the competition. It sucked. Leeds fans loved it, but the gap between top and middle was enormous, let alone bottom.

SL has let itself become too small no doubt to keep the cash among fewer clubs. That's led to loop fixtures and other nonsense, and the league itself would be better with 14 teams, but I'm not sure the talent exists to open it up. Although history suggests people don't mind watching their team put big scores on rubbish teams every now and then.

I do think the game needs to find a way forward that lets it grow in a sustainable way. But frankly old timers (I've been around 40 years plus) whinging should be the last people anyone listens to.'"

Yep. League games are far better attended in the modern era, and attendances have also stood up against blanket TV coverage this year. The big exception is the crowds generated for challenge cup games in the 80's. Remember being at HQ with over 24k in for a 3rd round tie against Widnes ( we were well beaten) and also travelling to Central Park with (if memory serves) with 25k in. Again, we were well beaten.

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Quote: Shabino "‘Oh won’t you stay, just a little bit longer……’'"



Thanks Shabino , i knew someone would ask me to stay icon_cheers.gif

But maybe i will just listen to commentary on the Radio like you !

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Quote: christopher "Probably for the best you don’t enjoy it anymore.

Not sure what IMG has to do with the scheduling of games though.'"



Not sure many people are enjoying it anymore , hence the reason why very few Leeds Fans travel away now .

Correct me if i am wrong but i thought IMG were the people who negotiated the T.V deal

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Quote: Rixy "Clickbait title - but it has managed to get you the attention you obviously crave.

Wow, so you're giving up your season ticket, will it affect me?, not a jot. Do I care?, again not a jot. Will anyone beg you to reconsider? I highly doubt it. Your post, like this reply is pretty senseless really, but have fun in whatever you choose to do with your time whilst not watching the Rhinos next season.'"




You seem to miss the point , which is , if i am feeling this way how many more Leeds Supporters feel the same ? I know of quite a few who are giving up their tickets , i did not think my post was senseless but you say that yours is which makes me wonder why you bothered .

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Thanks Shabino , i knew someone would ask me to stay Might not be a bad thing for a while bud. Radio Manchester commentary vs Wigan was brilliant. Blunt and honest, not like radio Leeds which is too pc.
‘What are they trying to do’
‘Where’s the spine’
‘Do they know season on the line’
‘Half backs are clueless’

Had to agree with the lad!

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Quote: ArthurClues "Yep. League games are far better attended in the modern era, and attendances have also stood up against blanket TV coverage this year. The big exception is the crowds generated for challenge cup games in the 80's. Remember being at HQ with over 24k in for a 3rd round tie against Widnes ( we were well beaten) and also travelling to Central Park with (if memory serves) with 25k in. Again, we were well beaten.'"

I was at that game, we were trounced. The ground was absolutely packed, I think the declared gate was 24k , most people thought the gate was actually nearer 30 k. Might be wrong but I think mal reilly was our coach and Laughton was the Widnes coach.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I was at that game, we were trounced. The ground was absolutely packed, I think the declared gate was 24k , most people thought the gate was actually nearer 30 k. Might be wrong but I think mal reilly was our coach and Laughton was the Widnes coach.'"



It was just over 26k (official) biggest crowd i have ever been in at headingley, Easy win for Widnes but think this was the Phil Ford famous Cover tackle on Offiah

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Quote: rollin thunder "It was just over 26k (official) biggest crowd i have ever been in at headingley, Easy win for Widnes but think this was the Phil Ford famous Cover tackle on Offiah'"

Can’t remember the ford tackle, we had decent season tickets in the north stand near to the front. First few minutes right on the touch line in front of us Offiah ran past Dave Herron, left him clutching air. Sadly it was downhill after that. Also remember Tait playing for Widnes.

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Quote: rollin thunder "It was just over 26k (official) biggest crowd i have ever been in at headingley, Easy win for Widnes but think this was the Phil Ford famous Cover tackle on Offiah'"


It was, I was there and remember it very well. Offiah went down the North Stand touch line from about 5 metres from his own line, Fordy came from the other side of the field. Those who they were running towards say that Martin actually fell over his own chin which dropped at the sight that Phyllis caught him. Biggest cheer of the day by some distance.

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Remember the CC Quarter Final at Widnes, think it was 86’ when Creaser kicked the penalty in the last couple of seconds to get a draw. Was on the pitch after like we’d just won the league! Sadly them days are long gone.

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Quote: batleyrhino "It was, I was there and remember it very well. Offiah went down the North Stand touch line from about 5 metres from his own line, Fordy came from the other side of the field. Those who they were running towards say that Martin actually fell over his own chin which dropped at the sight that Phyllis caught him. Biggest cheer of the day by some distance.'"


Bang on that Batley and exactly as I remember it
Me and our kid were stood on the eastern terrace that day and we got a birds eye view of Mavis (as fans on the Eastern terrace called him) bundling him into touch

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I was a western terracer in those days, with my Dad. As soon as Phil set off, I pointed to him and said to Dad that he would catch Offiah. Dad gave me one of those looks that only a father could give his son, and when the tackle was made I returned the favour… Good times.

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