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| Quote: Jack Burton "We're playing most of the game in our own half and always kicking on the backfoot, what can we realistically expect from any half back in that situation?'"
He has made a few errors personally which have contributed to us being in our own half too much though… I don’t think Frawley is our biggest problem though.
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| Agree, not fair to target individuals with their own thread!
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| He has been disappointing so far, especially his kicking.
But his defence is very solid and he regularly puts the big guys down.
And tbf, he's getting the ball in our own half the majority of the time.
What do expect him to do other than kick it as far down field as he can?
He's not our biggest problem by any stretch for me.
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| Whilst I don’t think he’s the right player for us at 7, he’s here for 2 years until Sinfield is (hopefully) ready for week in week out football. He’s definitely not helped out by our forwards, but needs to offer a lot more with the ball. His defence seems to be pretty solid.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Whilst I don’t think he’s the right player for us at 7, he’s here for 2 years until Sinfield is (hopefully) ready for week in week out football. He’s definitely not helped out by our forwards, but needs to offer a lot more with the ball. His defence seems to be pretty solid.'"
He is not good enough if we are looking to be top four material , but the effort is there and he defends ok and plays behind a beaten pack most weeks
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| No real surprise here, everyone knew what we were getting when he signed.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "I think he defends well actually and his attacking kicks are good. He is pretty skilful but main issues are general field kicking and lack of pace.
Sinfield needs to come past him really but we’ll see.'"
A halfback isn`t really a key defender and shouldn`t be selected for their defence only.
I`ve heard criticism of Jack Sinfield`s defence on here and that is the reason for him not being selected by Smith.
Sinfield`s defence will improve with experience AND coaching, but the coach needs to hide him in the defensive line until then and the defensive capability of a half is not a reason to exclude them from selection if they offer more in attack.
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| Quote: Boss Hog "A halfback isn`t really a key defender and shouldn`t be selected for their defence only.
I`ve heard criticism of Jack Sinfield`s defence on here and that is the reason for him not being selected by Smith.
Sinfield`s defence will improve with experience AND coaching, but the coach needs to hide him in the defensive line until then and the defensive capability of a half is not a reason to exclude them from selection if they offer more in attack.'"
Sinfield looks more solid in D this year TBF but not sure if he’ll still get exposed a bit in SL.
It’s okay saying it’s not their job until we lose games because bigger men run over them.
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| Quote: Boss Hog "A halfback isn`t really a key defender and shouldn`t be selected for their defence only.
I`ve heard criticism of Jack Sinfield`s defence on here and that is the reason for him not being selected by Smith.
Sinfield`s defence will improve with experience AND coaching, but the coach needs to hide him in the defensive line until then and the defensive capability of a half is not a reason to exclude them from selection if they offer more in attack.'"
It’s not, but they can’t be a liability either. Sam Walker deviding opinions in Oz, but he really is mustard in attack……
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| I don't think we've ever had a kicker as accurate as him, manages to pick out the opposition backs perfectly every single kick.
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| I don't have any major issues with Frawley. He defends and passes very well. Kicking game needs to improve but there are signs of improvement. He was never going to be scything through the defensive line scoring long range tries, what did people expect?
I'm more worried about Croft to be honest. He looks great ball in hand, but we're not seeing the ball in his hands enough. He also seems to be a better kicker than Frawley. We need to get him more involved though, like Williams was for Warrington.
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "I don't have any major issues with Frawley. He defends and passes very well. Kicking game needs to improve but there are signs of improvement. He was never going to be scything through the defensive line scoring long range tries, what did people expect?
I'm more worried about Croft to be honest. He looks great ball in hand, but we're not seeing the ball in his hands enough. He also seems to be a better kicker than Frawley. We need to get him more involved though, like Williams was for Warrington.'"
I agree Croft is a very good kicker and has shown that this season, the cross field kick to Handley and a few others. On Friday Croft and Frwley both kicked for tries.
I think Croft has some genuine class, Frawley is a steady Eddie at best. However, like Sezer last season if close to entire halves of
Games are spent in your own 40, it would not matter if we had Lomax, French, Williams or Mikey Lewis or all 4 on the pitch, they would do little.
Croft has made tries from deep this year, he needs front foot ball like Williams had on Fridayto be at his best.
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| I really don’t think it’s fair on Frawley. He was signed as a as Sir Greg says a “steady Eddie” and bringing Sinfield into the equation is not helping or relevant. Sinfield is a good prospect but still a year or two away. At the moment he lacks physical maturity and to play him regularly in SL would destroy him. I think reading comments on various threads I’ve come to the conclusion we need a marquee player in every position who is A super strong, line breaker capable of aggressively dumping the opposition on the floor but is not a liability,extremely fast capable of scoring long range tries, is a skilful organiser who has brilliant footwork, kicks goals and makes the tea.
Give the guy a break there are plenty of guys not pulling their weight but not intentionally. We were bad against the Wire, poor in the cup against Saints. The team needs to gel a new spine can hardly perform brilliantly from game one. A couple of good wins will build the confidence. I don’t expect them to be world beaters but do expect them to finish 5/6th.
Oh and by the way I think once Mov settles in and 100 % fit I think we will have a half decent centre pair.
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| Frawley's rarely got any scope to vary his long kicks. The oppos back 3 drops back on the 5th (its usually the 5th cos we need every available tackle to clear our own lines) fully knowing the zone where the ball will land. Again, this is driven by the need for more metres. Until we begin to defend higher, and/or our pack makes more ground, were unlikely to see much in terms of a decent and varied long kicking game.
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| To be honest, if we're only 30 or 40m away from our line on the 5th, I wouldn't mind seeing us try more powerplays, instead of kicking it. Or even a few bombs instead of a punt. The opposition are likely to start on the 40m line anyway, so we may as well take the chance.
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