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| GH has just released a statement we usually get this on Monday . theyre all worried and GH was hoping folr a sell out for the Cas game too .
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| I'd say the biggest lesson is knowing how and when to get involved on the playing side. You cannot have an authority higher than the coach in terms of day-to-day stuff.
Just on JJB and ablett, given that neither have done anything on the field and our seeming utter collapse in morale, I really don't understand the point of them being in the squad.
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "GH has just released a statement we usually get this on Monday . theyre all worried and GH was hoping folr a sell out for the Cas game too .'"
Not even at £10 in.
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| I've no idea what is or has gone on regarding team spirit etc but as well as looking rudderless, we are clearly short of leaders on the pitch and confidence will be very low. Getting/keeping fans behind them will be really important in next few months.
IF there is not a new coach lined up and I was in Sinfield's shoes I'd be looking to get someone in place who is level headed and can get players and fans behind him and announce it is until end of season. I'd be looking at Burrow with Tony Smith in as a special consultant. Agar can be involved as well if needed but to me the fans will give burrow total Support and if he is smart and appeals for fans support he will get it unreservedly
I Don't think this playing group can handle the pressure now, they won't be able to handle getting properly booed on and off and agar can't protect them. Burrow would buy time and if they get a coach lined up before end of season they can come in anyway.
Having said all that I hope the fact that bookmakers appear to have closed the book, means we will have someone in very soon.
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| Quote: loinertillidie "Not even at £10 in.'"
theyre worried
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| The club needs us more than ever now. Please for goodness sake don't boo them next week and turn out in your thousands. We will get back on track.
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| What makes anyone think that just because someone was a good rugby player that they can suddenly run a multi £ million business effectively? Crazy decision to put someone with no experience and too many ties to the club in such an important position. How many former player in any sport have gone straight back to a senior role at the club and being successful?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "What makes anyone think that just because someone was a good rugby player that they can suddenly run a multi £ million business effectively? Crazy decision to put someone with no experience and too many ties to the club in such an important position. How many former player in any sport have gone straight back to a senior role at the club and being successful?'"
He’s not running the multi million pound business though is he.
There’s a lot of people slating Sinfield for not doing his job properly when they don’t even know what job he’s supposed to be doing.
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| Quote: christopher "He’s not running the multi million pound business though is he.
There’s a lot of people slating Sinfield for not doing his job properly when they don’t even know what job he’s supposed to be doing.'"
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Slagging GH & KS off when they don't even know what they do is churlish and ludicrous.
Anyone who thinks that this club is not trying to turn around the on field form every way they can is kidding themselves. We on the outside do not have any idea how bad things are behind those gates. Easy to point a finger at lots of different places and people when you are not on possession of the facts
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| The facts are there for all to see an average squad who survived it's 2nd relegation battle in 3 years.
The current SQUAD assembled by GH AND Sinfield as DOR is no better ,the glaring gaps have not been filled more average dross signed to join the already average dross.
Failed Coaching appointment whilst not even giving the appointed Coach his OWN staff and very little say on who stays or goes.
The foundations which we built ALL our success on have crumbled and the blueprints torn up how many FACTS do you all need before question the methods or the people delivering them?
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "The facts are there for all to see an average squad who survived it's 2nd relegation battle in 3 years.
The current SQUAD assembled by GH AND Sinfield as DOR is no better ,the glaring gaps have not been filled more average dross signed to join the already average dross.
Failed Coaching appointment whilst not even giving the appointed Coach his OWN staff and very little say on who stays or goes.
The foundations which we built ALL our success on have crumbled and the blueprints torn up how many FACTS do you all need before question the methods or the people delivering them?'"
There not facts though Mark, not if you are putting all that on Sinfield which you are. You are stating facts over a longer period, and tarring him with the same brush. Only Hetherington should be criticised on that score.
Sinfield has made some mistakes, none more so than over the coach, but he isn’t a magician, and things were not going to change just like that. The bigger issues are ones we are dealing with, which we were burdened with before Sinfield involvement. To be fair in terms of recruitment anyone would have thought the two marquee lads were first class. Signing Donaldson and Albert maybe not so, but they were more squad fillers which everyone needs, and in Albert case a gamble out of desperation, because of the injuries.
The Furner appointment could quite easily have turned out to be a master stroke. It wouldn’t have changed those historical facts you mention, but it would certainly have changed peoples current views.
I am not saying Sinfield will succeed, but I am certainly saying he deserves more time than currently had before such threads. When tied with salary cap, correcting others past errors doesn’t magically get sorted overnight.
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| hetherington took over around 96 and it took 8 years to turn it around. sinfield has had around 8 months.
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| Gotcha if you read my post GH is clearly mentioned and is just as much if not more to blame.
Also it was Sinfield who retained Jjb and Ablett that's self inflicted and adding to the problems we see now.
Yes no one doubts he couldn't do it "overnight" but the brutal honesty is thus far the job has proven way too big for him imo.
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| Quote: tad rhino "hetherington took over around 96 and it took 8 years to turn it around. sinfield has had around 8 months.'"
GH Took over the whole club operation with zero foundations to build on and btw he has done a magnificent job.
However we have a blueprint that works especially within the RL side of it but it has been ignored both by GH and now KS is here and has zero idea how to turn it around.
If we are questioning GH which is fair to do so imo then KS is a target also.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Gotcha if you read my post GH is clearly mentioned and is just as much if not more to blame.
Also it was Sinfield who retained Jjb and Ablett that's self inflicted and adding to the problems we see now.
Yes no one doubts he couldn't do it "overnight" but the brutal honesty is thus far the job has proven way too big for him imo.'"
So what would you like to happen? GH to step down, Sinfield get the sack? Most of the squad sacked?
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