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Its under a thousand away from being a 21,500 sellout. www.therhinos.co.uk/news/18740.php
Paying in on the western terrace until all tickets are gone. One thing to be sure of, 20,000+ at headingley is gonna be as good if not better than any atmosphere at Elland Road!
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Its under a thousand away from being a 21,500 sellout. www.therhinos.co.uk/news/18740.php
Paying in on the western terrace until all tickets are gone. One thing to be sure of, 20,000+ at headingley is gonna be as good if not better than any atmosphere at Elland Road!
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| Very difficult to answer your question without access to detailed financial figures available from previous WCC encounters... how many spectators paid what price for their tickets, cost of stadium hire, etc.
What I do know is that attendances at Elland Rd for the WCC which Leeds have been involved in have shown a steady decline since 2005.
2005 V Canterbury - 37,028
2008 V Melbourne - 33,204
2009 V Manly - 32,569
2010 V Melbourne - 27,697
It's also worth bearing in mind that for all those fixtures above, lots of cheap £10 tickets were on offer in the week or two leading up to the game in order to boost the attendances.
Given there's been no cheap, discounted tickets made available for tonight's fixture at Headingley, an anticipated attendance of around 21,000 to 22,000, money to be made flogging their own utility food and p[ii[/iss masquerading as beer in plastic cartons, the absence of Elland Rd hire costs, etc, I think it's safe to conclude that Leeds will do better out of tonight's fixture financially than they did in 2010 at the very least.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Very difficult to answer your question without access to detailed financial figures available from previous WCC encounters... how many spectators paid what price for their tickets, cost of stadium hire, etc.
What I do know is that attendances at Elland Rd for the WCC which Leeds have been involved in have shown a steady decline since 2005.
2005 V Canterbury - 37,028
2008 V Melbourne - 33,204
2009 V Manly - 32,569
2010 V Melbourne - 27,697
It's also worth bearing in mind that for all those fixtures above, lots of cheap £10 tickets were on offer in the week or two leading up to the game in order to boost the attendances.'"
Thats a staggering decline in attendances. 9000+ in 5 years, any obvious reasons for that?
Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Given there's been no cheap, discounted tickets made available for tonight's fixture at Headingley, an anticipated attendance of around 21,000 to 22,000, money to be made flogging their own utility food and p[ii[/iss masquerading as beer in plastic cartons, the absence of Elland Rd hire costs, etc, I think it's safe to conclude that Leeds will do better out of tonight's fixture financially than they did in 2010 at the very least.'"
Would Leeds be entitled to bar and food revenues, or would these facilities fall under RFL control for the evening?
Either way a massive shot in the arm for Leeds Rugby it seems.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Very difficult to answer your question without access to detailed financial figures available from previous WCC encounters... how many spectators paid what price for their tickets, cost of stadium hire, etc.
What I do know is that attendances at Elland Rd for the WCC which Leeds have been involved in have shown a steady decline since 2005.
2005 V Canterbury - 37,028
2008 V Melbourne - 33,204
2009 V Manly - 32,569
2010 V Melbourne - 27,697
It's also worth bearing in mind that for all those fixtures above, lots of cheap £10 tickets were on offer in the week or two leading up to the game in order to boost the attendances.
Given there's been no cheap, discounted tickets made available for tonight's fixture at Headingley, an anticipated attendance of around 21,000 to 22,000, money to be made flogging their own utility food and p[ii[/iss masquerading as beer in plastic cartons, the absence of Elland Rd hire costs, etc, I think it's safe to conclude that Leeds will do better out of tonight's fixture financially than they did in 2010 at the very least.'"
The clues are in the numbers as Keith has pointed out. Embarrassing just over half full stadium for this showpiece event vs full to brimming.
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| Quote: J O N N Y "Thats a staggering decline in attendances. 9000+ in 5 years, any obvious reasons for that?
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Yes. The novelty wore off. Simple as that.
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| Quote: Rhinoshaund III "The clues are in the numbers as Keith has pointed out. Embarrassing just over half full stadium for this showpiece event vs full to brimming.'"
Should be a good criac tonight, i know of plenty of non Leeds fans attending, hopefully we get a better performance than last week.
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| Quote: J O N N Y "Should be a good criac tonight, i know of plenty of non Leeds fans attending, hopefully we get a better performance than last week.'"
Definately
Win, lose or draw, heads will be sore................................in the morning
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| Although a pretty big decline in 2010 in terms of % to capacity i'm sure it isn't as bad because the East Stand upper was closed.
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| Quote: rhinoms "Although a pretty big decline in 2010 in terms of % to capacity i'm sure it isn't as bad because the East Stand upper was closed.'"
Since the rest of the ground wasn't full, I don't think that made any difference to be honest.
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| The first 2 were sell outs and the 3rd was almost sold out. The last time though was well below cap.
I like the idea of 20k in Headingley (our biggest att in 5 years?) and the atmosphere will be a lot better in the compact stadium than maybe a few thousand more would have created at ER. Not to mention all this has probably done is cut down on the amount of Neutrals attending.
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| Quote: El Diablo "Yes. The novelty wore off. Simple as that.'"
What would you consider to be novel about the game? and for whom?
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| Quote: Harrigan "The first 2 were sell outs and the 3rd was almost sold out. The last time though was well below cap.
I like the idea of 20k in Headingley (our biggest att in 5 years?) and the atmosphere will be a lot better in the compact stadium than maybe a few thousand more would have created at ER. Not to mention all this has probably done is cut down on the amount of Neutrals attending.'"
I miss the days when a Bradford match attracted a crowd of around 25k and Headingley was bouncing
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| Of course the novelty has worn off......playing in a WCC final for the first time was exciting because it was new.
Now this is the 5th time we have played in it - the novelty is bound to wear thin.
For those who wonder if GF loses it's novelty value - then no, obviously not - it is a prestigious competition.
However, the WCC is nothing more than a glorified friendly. I want us to win, but I am not fussed if we don't. I would rather win the challenge cup or the GF (again).
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| Quote: J O N N Y "What would you consider to be novel about the game? and for whom?'"
In 2005 we were champions for the first time in 30 odd years (first time in my lifetime). The WCC was our reward, we hadn't played one before. Having seen Bradford and Saints win the previous ones, expectations were high. Thus it was novel and exciting for the good citizens of Leeds.
By 2010, it was our 4th in 5 or 6 years. Thus no longer novel. It wasn't even the first against Melbourne.
Given that very few people really believe that victory in this match really makes you the best team in the world on anything other than paper, the novelty was an important selling point, particularly to people outside the club's core support.
The fact that we've lost the last two has probably dented consumer confidence too.
For most fans (certainly for me, I speculate for the rest) this is the 3rd or even 4th most important trophy (depending on how you value the LLS). It's nice to win, don't get me wrong, but not the be all and end all.
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| Quote: Harrigan "The first 2 were sell outs and the 3rd was almost sold out. The last time though was well below cap.'"
None of them were sell out games.
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